Tuesday, August 1, 2017

Noted

Via DNAInfo...

Tenants of 10 Stanton St. say they have been shocked to witness unwanted peep shows when they look out their windows at the back of Ian Schrager’s Public Hotel, claiming that the hotel's guests have been getting frisky in plain sight.

“People are seeing people having sex — they don’t even close their blinds,” said Debbie Gonzalez of the 10 Stanton Tenants Association at a recent association meeting. “There are 44 apartments in that back, and these people are subjected to noise, nudity, smoking — it’s ridiculous.”

The Public (Pubic?) Hotel opened in June on Chrystie Street just below Houston.

33 comments:

Gojira said...

This from the original April 2016 post:

~Schrager’s reps assured community members their sound-proofing methods would lock in any loud noise...

Does that include the sounds of thumping, moaning, and "Oh God"'s?

~Schrager opened proceedings with an introduction, conveying his intention to create “something great for the neighborhood” that embodies the spirit of the area...

I guess now that Times Square is no longer the porn capital of America, it's up to this place to assume the peepshow mantle. Dunno how "great" that is, but maybe I'm just not hip or cool enough to see it.

Anonymous said...

It is disgusting to build a hotel/condo right next to Section 8 housing. Compounded by the fact that the room rates are starting at upwards of $400/night. And the least pricey condo is going for over $4M.

Anonymous said...

TECHNICALLY THEY ARE DOING IT IN THEE PRIVACY OF THEIR ROOMS.

Anonymous said...

Two elderly women are at a Catskill Mountain resort. And one of 'em says: 'Boy, the food in this place is really terrible.' The other one says: 'Yeah, I know. And such small portions.'

Anonymous said...

"Subjected to nudity noise and 'smoking'". Give me a break. Those apartments have a huge parking lot separating them from the hotel and are more than the width of an avenue away. How the hell are they being subjected to smoking? And as for nudity and noise, get over it. This is NYC. I realize you miss your old pastoral views of the old green plot of land. But be thankful that your back facing apartments are not now facing an air shaft. You still have space and a view.

Anonymous said...

Ah, Ian Schrager, that bellwether of all that is decent, helpful & considerate. Say no more!

PS: Tenants at 10 Stanton: it's cheaper than cable!

Anonymous said...

I'd like to rent out the apt. across these said rooms in the Public Hotel. AirBnB anyone?

Anonymous said...

What are the cops going to do? Arrest people for fucking and smoking? Please. They're not doing anything illegal.

Giovanni said...

This gives a whole new meaning to the term
"Room service." They should just build these hotels with glass floors and ceilings so that everyone can see what everyone else is doing. I can't wait to see what version of Sodom and Gomorrah the Moxy Hotel turns out to be. Welcome to BroDeo Drive.

Anonymous said...

Don't see what the problem is; they're getting free live sex act. No need to go to and blow your hard (that's what she said!) -earned or not moolah at Bowery Bliss or SNCTM.

Anonymous said...

@4:14

"It is disgusting to build a hotel/condo right next to Section 8 housing. Compounded by the fact that the room rates are starting at upwards of $400/night. And the least pricey condo is going for over $4M."

Isn't a mixed income neighborhood the desired planning solution from an economic stability and opportunity standpoint? Seems to me that it is better than clumping all the low-income housing together.

Anonymous said...

And the problem is....?

Anonymous said...

Meh... Lower East Side BS. Thankfully we don't have to deal with such behavior in the East Village.

Anonymous said...

Giovanni, Standard Hotel has floor to ceiling glass walls so that everybody walking at the High Line can see what everybody inside the hotel is doing.

http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/2009/08/naked-city.html

It is now up (pun intended?) to Moxy Hotel to have their rooms with glass floors and ceilings to up (there's that word again, Freudian slip?) the game (and game is not the only thing that will be up).

Anonymous said...

Good grief. As if this is a dire issue. There are other more important problems worth griping about.

People have sex. They smoke. And sometimes they don't care who sees. As long as it it consensual between adults in their own paid room, who cares? Its not hurting anyone. I can understand how some might be offended, but honestly, we live in a society of free will. You can't control anyone, especially whom they have sex with or when.

Those residents who wish to attend "association meetings" can do so as long as they wish. They have no jurisdiction or business telling others when, where or what to do with their bodies. I have a neighbor here on 7th street, who rarely leaves his blinds down, who I see walk naked freely in his apartment across the street from mine. I've even seen him do intimate things with his boyfriend on a few occasions. What am I going to do? Call the cop? I can't do anything And guess what, I don't care. Its kind of amusing actually. But guess what, humans have sex. Get over it. Stop looking if it bothers you.

This is 2017. Not 1957. And its lower Manhattan for Pete's sake.

Anonymous said...

Lol 941. Just wait until the Moxie opens on 11th and third! Whooo!

JQ LLC said...

"Isn't a mixed income neighborhood the desired planning solution from an economic stability and opportunity standpoint? Seems to me that it is better than clumping all the low-income housing together."

I don't think this is what Jane Jacobs had in mind.

I just wonder what would happen if a bunch of tenants in Section 8 and project housing decided to bang each other with the windows open in full view of passerby in towns like Brownsville or Washington Heights, two places that haven't been gentrified yet because developers may be too scared to do. I bet the cops would come fast.

This calls for vigilante action, since the patrons of this upper class white trash hotel wants to parade a new gilded age in De Faustio's new fun city. I suggest doing what the people in Venezuela are doing by putting feces and urine toilet water in bottles (they called them molotoilet cocktails I think) and throw it at them or to be safe just throw rotten fruit and eggs to be on the safe side, at their rooftop bacchanalias and at all the suckers on line waiting to get in.

Anonymous said...

I do remember the HighLine hotel PROMOTING that sexy people were doing sexy things in their big windows. Including planted model types lounging in their bra and panties.

Except when two guys starting going at it. Then they shut it down quickly!

Anonymous said...

I smell a great photography show coming. Just one person in the apartment building with a good camera and a zoom lens can put together a great show...the title is ready made: "Public" Sex.

I hope someone might even post photos on their blog or site so we can all share in the beauty of coitus and other pleasurable activities. No doubt the hotel could make good PR from that as well by billing itself as one of the most photographed hotels in the world, which it will be. How about renting out the roof of the stanton street building several nights a week to aspiring photographers?

Exhibitionists will flock to this hotel and request those back rooms hoping to be captured and put on display.

This is New York City. The city that never sleeps and offers up anything at anytime of day in any location.

Anonymous said...

Welcome to New York?

People often walk around naked etc in their apartments, it's nothing new.

DrGecko said...

God in His wisdom gave us cell phones with cameras and He created the internet for posting pictures and videos.

People, just do God's work.

Anonymous said...

@12:36am: "It's lower Manhattan"? You think that justifies anything-goes behavior? Who decided that "lower Manhattan" was going to be a cesspool of fratboy/jerkoff behavior? Did the nabe get designated a slut-orama officially or something?!

Anonymous said...

don't you guys know public sexuality is only cool and authentic when women and the young are being exploited in times square?

John M said...

Perhaps the tenants can get together and loudly cheer the participants. They might notice and be embarrassed.

Of course, they might not.

Anonymous said...

"It is disgusting to build a hotel/condo right next to Section 8 housing. Compounded by the fact that the room rates are starting at upwards of $400/night. And the least pricey condo is going for over $4M."

The disgusting part is yet to come when money dries up for public housing Schrager and his like will be there to buy those unfunded buildings for more luxury shit. The city is already considering selling off parking lots and green spaces around section 8 and public housing to fund renovations for those cheaply built government buildings. 10 years late when those renovations need renovation the buildings themselves will be sold to private interest. Getting the poor of Manhattan will be complete, Dubai on the Hudson.

Anonymous said...

You know sometimes I don't understand what people want on this website. I generally agree with the sentiment that the EV is becoming more and more suburbanized and gentrified, but this kind of complaint reeks of suburban homeowner association nosiness. If you want to complain about huge hotels or crappy yuppy bars I get it, but complaining about what you see when you look into your neighbor's windows or about smoking? I guess that doesn't make sense given the constant longing for the artsy, grimy realness of old New York people also complain about here. It seems like if you want to complain about people having sex in their hotel rooms, you should be living in suburban tract housing in middle America in what passes for a city out there.

JQ LLC said...

"I smell a great photography show coming. Just one person in the apartment building with a good camera and a zoom lens can put together a great show...the title is ready made: "Public" Sex."

These people, the developers and the patrons, all subhuman bags of dead dicks and rat shit, don't have any shame or decency and know they are being coddled because they spend more than the constituency. THIS is the reason why the shitty council, De faustio and Cy Vance decided to ease up on laws on public urination and drunkenness.

In fact, they should set up that camera like they do at theme park roller coaster and water flumes to get riders reactions.

This city is already a damn theme park anyway.

Anonymous said...

From a legal POV, nothing can be done, unless someone did something within the realm of a public space. Then there is a whole different issue at hand. From what it seems, those in the hotel, who have willfully exposed themselves in vulnerable ways have not broken the law. And while I understand many of the tenants from across the space are witness to intimate acts, they have no power or control over their actions. What can they do? Make people close their blinds in their rooms? That is ridiculous. This isn't a communist state.

So, if I were them, I'd either turn the other way, when it is happening, or move. Otherwise, grin and bear it. Personally, I don't care one way or another. Consensual relations between adults is fun and healthy. And if it happens to be in a window across the space from mine, so be it. I've seen much worse.

Anonymous said...

So what happens if someone who's a tenant live-streams the "view" from across the way?

Because if people want to screw with the lights on & the windows uncovered in a hotel with all-glass walls, they don't really have an expectation of privacy, do they?

If that were the view from my apartment, I'd be pressing my nose up against the glass & doing everything I could to get their attention so they'd KNOW they were being watched. And then I'd give 'em a thumbs-down.

JQ LLC said...

"I've seen much worse"

Please enlighten us. And if screwing in full view of the passerby and residents from the floor to ceiling window across the street is not much worse , what pray tell is.

Maybe if they had a threesome with a french bulldog, or a chicken like in Pink Flamingos.

Someone above mentioned the Standard's standards of their patrons and people seeing the nasty from below. The hotels are clearly encouraging the debauchery.

Anonymous said...

I've never said "Oh, God!" when having sex.

'Don't wanna see it? Don't look at it. Mind your own business.

Anonymous said...

Now now children. Let's all be reasonable and kind to one another.

Anonymous said...

A view of hotel guests having sex can be easily remedied by closing your curtains, shades or blinds. Keeping noise out of our apartment from a loud bro sports bar is nearly impossible. People of the Lower East Side pick your battles wisely.