tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post1270529392359233097..comments2024-03-29T01:38:51.887-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: [Updated] Raphael Toledano is now funding the Creative Little Garden on 6th StreetUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-25344857892912764382016-07-17T18:50:33.772-04:002016-07-17T18:50:33.772-04:0011:13am that's still receiving donations from ...11:13am that's still receiving donations from him, it's just done through a curious intermediary as why is someone from North Carolina collecting donations for a NYC community garden? IF he's donating.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-27968110364007709342016-07-17T13:36:16.167-04:002016-07-17T13:36:16.167-04:00There definitely have been no donations in the pas...There definitely have been no donations in the past two months to the garden. The press release reported in this article was dated Tuesday last week, and I learned about it late last night. I've been hunting around the internet today, and have found seemingly old, but vague, claims that Toledano has donated to the garden in the past. If true, it was a terrible mistake. Toledano does not represent the values of the Creative Little Garden. Franciose's ashes are there, and she would shoot rose thorns at him. The Creative Little Gardennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-8698534583958745282016-07-17T12:41:20.747-04:002016-07-17T12:41:20.747-04:00So is this a lie? Did the garden not get any money...So is this a lie? Did the garden not get any money from him? I am curious and would love to hear something on the record from one of the people who oversees the garden. I do hope that this isn't true. It would be so depressing to think anyone in the neighborhood would allow this guy to use them to look good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-65836536843544514142016-07-17T07:31:06.948-04:002016-07-17T07:31:06.948-04:00The simplest explanation is that Mr. Esquire is ly...The simplest explanation is that Mr. Esquire is lying about his "funding and participation in the maintenance and upkeep of the Creative Little Garden." He is probably congratulating himself at successfully provoking members of the community into attacking each other. <br /><br />Because it is a fact that the garden hasn't received a dime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-896761271238831672016-07-16T23:13:49.158-04:002016-07-16T23:13:49.158-04:00The garden didn't get any money from Toledano....The garden didn't get any money from Toledano. We don't actually even have a bank account at this point. Perhaps Toledano has donated through a website named www.creativelittlegarden.org, which is run by a gentleman who now lives in North Carolina.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-90784713639261082462016-07-15T17:16:38.890-04:002016-07-15T17:16:38.890-04:006:54pm fair enough but you don't HAVE to take ...6:54pm fair enough but you don't HAVE to take money from a known tenant-evicting slumlord scumbag. There are plenty of building owners who aren't that.<br /><br />There's also this thing called PUTTING UP YOUR OWN MONEY and RAISING MONEY yourself plus barter, donations, and volunteers.<br /><br />I don't think an annual garden access fee even if it was just a dollar a year would hurt anyone as things cost money. If you're concerned about low income people not having access to it, raise $100 a year for 100 free garden access passes.<br /><br />One benefit could easily buy all the garden tools you need and then some.<br /><br />Get the money no matter where it comes from, right? SAD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-76257110199756660032016-07-15T09:59:09.480-04:002016-07-15T09:59:09.480-04:00DO NOT TAKE HIS MONEY!!DO NOT TAKE HIS MONEY!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-80702432547618455432016-07-14T18:54:15.077-04:002016-07-14T18:54:15.077-04:00Only someone not involved in the gardens would sug...Only someone not involved in the gardens would suggest that money from a local should be turned down. Do you know how little money these gardens receive? In our area, we approach the owner of any new building going up and request money and/or access, such as access to electricity for special events, or permission to use their trash cans, something. They almost always comply, they're so happy that someone invited them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-17091274938645853782016-07-14T16:54:37.153-04:002016-07-14T16:54:37.153-04:00Take the money and runTake the money and runAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-6220023188316326412016-07-14T16:17:10.627-04:002016-07-14T16:17:10.627-04:00Isn't it Raffi Toledano, Esq.? Next thing you ...Isn't it Raffi Toledano, Esq.? Next thing you know he'll be running for public office.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-54346970811067125652016-07-14T13:09:46.762-04:002016-07-14T13:09:46.762-04:00Dr. Gecko,
Someone else's tax deduction does ...Dr. Gecko,<br /><br />Someone else's tax deduction does not raise the tax paid by you or anyone else. (You too have a standard tax deduction, I assume, and how does that raise your neighbor's tax?)<br /><br />The State's tax take is the sum of all the taxes paid by net tax payers, i.e. workers in the private sector. This take funds the politicians, crookeaucrats, welfare recipients, and other net tax consumers.<br />Mr. Smith gets $140,000 - his fake tax payment of $50,000, for a net tax consuming haul of $90,000. The technical libertarian name for this is New Class Parasite, or pure public parasite.<br />If he's "working" for the Pentagon, maybe he's designing the next generation of agent orange.<br />Ray, who sells candy and milkshakes, sends a check every two weeks to <br />the crooks at Havana on the Hudson and Pyongyang on the Potomac.<br />He is a productive net tax payer, unlike Mr. Smith. <br /><br />BillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-78479127808663839032016-07-14T13:09:36.055-04:002016-07-14T13:09:36.055-04:00He probably thinks he now owns a "share"...He probably thinks he now owns a "share" in the garden and will continue to donate until he owns it all, then rip out and build some more dorm-apartments. I hope they refuse his money. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-58289588029895948582016-07-14T13:02:01.367-04:002016-07-14T13:02:01.367-04:00Shame on this garden for taking money from this gr...Shame on this garden for taking money from this greedy tenant-evicting slumlord.<br /><br />Sellouts!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-77815312934938003682016-07-14T12:30:55.361-04:002016-07-14T12:30:55.361-04:00I suggest going by the garden and posting a sign c...I suggest going by the garden and posting a sign concerning what you think of the garden taking dirty money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-77732978120765009682016-07-14T12:26:52.620-04:002016-07-14T12:26:52.620-04:00This garden was founded by an anarchist, so it'...This garden was founded by an anarchist, so it's pretty pathetic a self-proclaimed anarchist would support such an obviously crooked capitalist. I guess that's where the libertarianism comes in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-61891595974440377522016-07-14T12:07:27.937-04:002016-07-14T12:07:27.937-04:00@Bill - it's not a common fallacy; it's a ...@Bill - it's not a common fallacy; it's a common shorthand. If some entity doesn't pay taxes, my taxes have to cover for that. <br /><br />And your "Pyongyang on the Potomac" motive is not accurate. I invite you to listen to the Wangjaesang Light Music Band, in their delightful rendition of "Our Country Without Taxes": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uByxiMCESM<br /><br />No music on the Potomac will ever match this.DrGeckohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11480708164024012673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-56025441083160300432016-07-14T11:32:46.424-04:002016-07-14T11:32:46.424-04:00You can't buy ethics, morals, or dignity my fr...You can't buy ethics, morals, or dignity my friend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-18462877615822217702016-07-14T10:46:30.155-04:002016-07-14T10:46:30.155-04:00Dr. Gecko,
It's a common fallacy to think of ...Dr. Gecko,<br /><br />It's a common fallacy to think of tax deductions as funded by someone else paying taxes. If Mr. Smith makes $100 and pays $20 in tax after a $4 tax deduction ($24 adjusted gross - $4 deduction = $20 tax payment), his net tax payment is $20, which is theft by the criminal entity known as the State. <br />That is true as long as Mr. Smith works in the private, productive sector, i.e., a business. <br />No one else's taxes are affected one dollar by this.<br />Now Mr. Smith goes to Washington and starts "earning" his income by <br />"working" for the criminal entity at Pyongyang on the Potomac, let's say for the IRS (Infernal Ripoff Squad), or the Pentagon, which is a mass murder planner. <br />His income zooms to $140, reflecting the well-known fact that gubment "workers" "earn" more than productive people in the private sector, who respond to actual consumer demand.<br />He has $50 deducted and sent each pay day to the Ripoff Squad.<br />His net theft is $90.<br /><br />See Murray N. Rothbard, "The Fallacy of the Public Sector," which can be read online. His essay "The Anatomy of the State" should turn you into an anarchist.<br /><br />Bill, libertarian, anarchist, enemy of tax theft Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-63405622849401917032016-07-14T09:21:08.084-04:002016-07-14T09:21:08.084-04:00Well, some of this is Your Tax Dollars, since his ...Well, some of this is Your Tax Dollars, since his donations are deductible. DrGeckohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11480708164024012673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-43492323248459385212016-07-14T09:16:46.760-04:002016-07-14T09:16:46.760-04:00Its a con. It his"look how much i love this a...Its a con. It his"look how much i love this area" ploy. I heard one of his frat boy goons agents say "i wont be happy till all the stabilized tenants are homeless" with a grin on his face. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-62005843588311577312016-07-14T09:04:26.860-04:002016-07-14T09:04:26.860-04:00"Toledano yes, crusties no."
If Toleda..."Toledano yes, crusties no." <br /><br />If Toledano wasn't harassing and illegally evicting low income tenants from his buildings you might have a point. But he does. This is dirty money no matter how you count it.dwgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-83919210930128549922016-07-14T09:02:02.123-04:002016-07-14T09:02:02.123-04:00buy a building or fifty
empty them at any cost
no ...buy a building or fifty<br />empty them at any cost<br />no heat, no water, no gas, no repairs, etc.<br />stores too<br /><br />turn them into cheaply renovated, expensivce, multilpe bedroomed "dorm" apartments <br />when you've completed your destruction throw a few pennies at something local to make you appear like a human being<br /><br />won't work - want to do something positive? get out of town!<br /><br />blue glassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-50562725560897136722016-07-14T08:39:50.762-04:002016-07-14T08:39:50.762-04:00Crusties have been hanging out in this garden almo...Crusties have been hanging out in this garden almost every day the last three or four weeks smoking cigarettes and pot, and drinking alcohol even though they have been told not to do so. People are now starting to call 311 with a request to have a cop come by, which has happened several times.<br />Toledano has a right to do with his money whatever he wants that is legal, including funding this garden.<br /><br />Toledano yes, crusties no. <br /><br />BillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-76598730586567142182016-07-14T08:27:24.713-04:002016-07-14T08:27:24.713-04:00I betcha he rips out all fhe plants and installs ...I betcha he rips out all fhe plants and installs hothouse flowers. More upscale. <br /><br />I second Anon. 7.32's statement. Blood money is what it is. Gojiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-21195202739991529112016-07-14T07:42:58.238-04:002016-07-14T07:42:58.238-04:00I would ask those running the garden not to accept...I would ask those running the garden not to accept Toledano's money. Are they people who run this garden unaware of how he treats the tenants in his building? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com