tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post1462910103965794375..comments2024-03-29T03:35:13.051-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: Chef Wylie Dufresne's former Alder space for rent on 2nd AvenueUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-62861430224262430512015-09-24T09:51:54.931-04:002015-09-24T09:51:54.931-04:00Bro Ho... ick.Bro Ho... ick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-76939235470067623902015-09-23T02:02:48.435-04:002015-09-23T02:02:48.435-04:00@ 5:42pm "At what point does the city address...@ 5:42pm "At what point does the city address this hell strip they and the assholes in Albany giving out liquor license to anyone which ask have created?" Look, DeBlasio has got his hands full what with creating a task force to take down the Times Square Street performers that clearly threaten this city's place on the nation's morality scale. Priorities, you know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-27997901845052619022015-09-23T00:01:57.505-04:002015-09-23T00:01:57.505-04:00Why not have the mayor rename the hood to broville...Why not have the mayor rename the hood to broville? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-34745221412824668322015-09-22T21:23:04.916-04:002015-09-22T21:23:04.916-04:00@5:42pm: "At what point does the city address...@5:42pm: "At what point does the city address this hell strip they and the assholes in Albany giving out liquor license to anyone which ask have created?"<br /><br />Not nearly soon enough, unfortunately. It's like they moved the "old" Bowery one block east, with upscale drunks instead of the old flophouse residents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-14565366338043936332015-09-22T17:42:26.179-04:002015-09-22T17:42:26.179-04:00"They think the frat crowd is driving custome... "They think the frat crowd is driving customers away". There is no way anyone over the age of 35 wants to spend any time even passing through the gauntlet of sports and bro bars on lower 2nd avenue. More grown up places will close and move out meaning more spaces for sports and bro bars to fill. At what point does the city address this hell strip they and the assholes in Albany giving out liquor license to anyone which ask have created? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-66024576430508502112015-09-22T16:55:43.808-04:002015-09-22T16:55:43.808-04:0016% of the key money commission? If that is on top...16% of the key money commission? If that is on top of the initial key money thats absurd. Its another $64k. I thought commercial fees were paid by the building owner, a scaled % annually over the lease term? Its all FUBAR now. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-52009440430848797392015-09-22T14:42:28.704-04:002015-09-22T14:42:28.704-04:00@11:57am: I can believe business is down, because...@11:57am: I can believe business is down, because this nabe is now a ghetto. A bro ghetto.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-8549634031399433372015-09-22T14:34:50.741-04:002015-09-22T14:34:50.741-04:00I live 2 blocks from there, like to eat at good re...I live 2 blocks from there, like to eat at good restaurants and never really noticed it either. As for business being down overall, whenever I want an enjoyable meal out I pick one far away from the center of the EV which is now insufferably full of tourists and bros and IBM douches in actual business suits. Otherwise I'd be eating there a lot like I used to but no way will I pay to sit among the type of people I deliberately left, and have paid extra over the decades to stay away from.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-52252210244241372352015-09-22T14:24:55.780-04:002015-09-22T14:24:55.780-04:00Best block for what?Best block for what?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-85101960490520996552015-09-22T14:13:57.044-04:002015-09-22T14:13:57.044-04:00 I will be sad to have Adler go... It was then on... I will be sad to have Adler go... It was then one grownup bar in a douche filled street... I remember that they were one of the first no santa bars during santacon...<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-1318108778168068112015-09-22T13:02:16.402-04:002015-09-22T13:02:16.402-04:00No high end in that area.No high end in that area.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-38595514689817902272015-09-22T12:40:43.703-04:002015-09-22T12:40:43.703-04:00I believe it. The frat crowd is driving away a var...I believe it. The frat crowd is driving away a variety of people. Walking around on a weekend night the crowds are Mardi Gras and Disney Land combined in size and everyone is drunk and screaming. Add to THAT the college kids out for the night milling around and it's thousands of people in the streets. It's fucking awful and bad for any business not a bar or atm. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-75240635314776380552015-09-22T11:57:41.391-04:002015-09-22T11:57:41.391-04:00According to some friends with financial interests...According to some friends with financial interests in restaurants on 2nd, business is down 10 to 20%. They still make money but the trend is a little scary. They think the frat crowd is driving customers away. Good luck getting a high end restaurant. cmarrtyynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-7435712480952259062015-09-22T10:57:29.140-04:002015-09-22T10:57:29.140-04:00Lower 2nd Avenue is long overdue for renovation. T...Lower 2nd Avenue is long overdue for renovation. The only thing holding up one building is the building next to it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-2610242584626895372015-09-22T10:37:13.963-04:002015-09-22T10:37:13.963-04:00400k key money? good luck with that. 400k key money? good luck with that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-69121703009476962292015-09-22T10:26:20.219-04:002015-09-22T10:26:20.219-04:00Oh yes, Plum! We liked that pizza. Oh yes, Plum! We liked that pizza. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-54855603313411858752015-09-22T10:11:19.621-04:002015-09-22T10:11:19.621-04:00The city should change that part of Second Ave to ...The city should change that part of Second Ave to Bro Avenue. I envision another bar, full of bros of course, who command your attention, who are even more at the helm of that corner. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-29183947271763560192015-09-22T09:15:22.612-04:002015-09-22T09:15:22.612-04:00In addition to the proximity to The13th Step, let&...In addition to the proximity to The13th Step, let's not forget the major gas explosion and building collapse that happened on the next block down, which turned the whole area into a nasty, congested, smoke filled constructiion zone for months. Cars sat in traffic honking and trying to squeeze through that area with all the lane closures, not exactly the kind of place you want to go to enjoy a fine dining restaurant. Even Moishe's suffered, everyone's business was down.Giovannihttp://urbanmyths.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-7270899938693202972015-09-22T08:57:14.313-04:002015-09-22T08:57:14.313-04:00Why have I never noticed this place? Oh yes it'...Why have I never noticed this place? Oh yes it's on a strip on 2nd I always avoid. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-34414259881827192642015-09-22T08:03:54.994-04:002015-09-22T08:03:54.994-04:00Its too bad this space and all the top shelf renov...Its too bad this space and all the top shelf renovations are on bro way. Hardly a go-to destination for high end food when the surrounding bars' patrons are vomiting on everything. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com