tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post827383723188527207..comments2024-03-29T10:34:24.199-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: Looking at "Fear in Alphabet City"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-74849285681353102532009-09-18T20:39:36.608-04:002009-09-18T20:39:36.608-04:00What really threatens the safety of a neighborhood...What really threatens the safety of a neighborhood is the transient people, such as students, only here for limited quantities of time. The fiber of a community is built on families growing together knowing one another and caring about the neighborhood, together.<br />It is obvious that the NYU half wits do not care as they have no problem literally trashing the neighborhood.<br />I guess their helicopter parents were too busy giving them material goods to teach them about throwing away trash, sorting recycling and not throwing doggie waste on top of recycling .<br />And yes, it did feel safer- to all the mouths that don't believe it. Go away, you ruin neighborhoods, and are annoying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-34466595437886099102009-09-17T23:28:15.587-04:002009-09-17T23:28:15.587-04:00I lived in a building that didn't have a front...I lived in a building that didn't have a front door for some time... Weird thing, no one was ever robbed.EV Grievehttp://evgrieve.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-37842708586135546802009-09-17T19:35:19.180-04:002009-09-17T19:35:19.180-04:00Anon 2:41 - safety in numbers is bullshit, unless ...Anon 2:41 - safety in numbers is bullshit, unless you are all carrying guns. The only time I was ever attacked or robbed I was with 9 other people. The other 2 guys had guns. Guns trump a big group every time.<br /><br />Don't fool yourself, the city has been a dangerous place this whole time, it's just more shiny so you feel safe, but that doesn't make it safe.Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04362859175287085919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-59483823506973730902009-09-17T14:58:03.797-04:002009-09-17T14:58:03.797-04:00A better way of putting it was that when you have ...A better way of putting it was that when you have a bunch of people in the neighborhood for along time, they know how each other will behave. Things become predictable. There is a belief that criminals just go around killing people randomly, which isn't true. You could stay out of the drug dealers way.<br /><br />Now there is no predictability -you can't even walk down the street and know that someone won't veer into, or that you won't get hit by a red light running SUV or taxi. So things are less predictable and there is a feeeling that anything can happen.<br /><br />However, violent crime is way down, apparently for demographic reasons. But alot of the hidden social structures that got the city through past problem eras have eroded. I'm not even sure that things will be OK if (when?) we have another blackout, since there has been so much churn in the population since 2002.prodigal sonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-88698149155582731732009-09-17T14:41:33.347-04:002009-09-17T14:41:33.347-04:00Haven't you all heard of "safety in numbe...Haven't you all heard of "safety in numbers"? You're much safer when traveling with large groups of people -- drunk or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-23482316217421624542009-09-17T13:24:42.342-04:002009-09-17T13:24:42.342-04:00It definitely wasn't safer back in the early 1...It definitely wasn't safer back in the early 1990s for those of us who lived in buildings run by the drug dealers. Now I feel safer, but the quality of life has gone down due to the influx of bars and frat types. I feel like I'm in the middle of a college party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-71809270025167689202009-09-17T11:21:34.828-04:002009-09-17T11:21:34.828-04:00Anonymous 11:09: "like people don't get m...Anonymous 11:09: "like people don't get mugged / shot / etc... elsewhere in this city?!"<br /><br />What is your point?<br /><br />And did you even read Matt Harvey's piece in the NYP? There has been confirmed gunfire all over the neighborhood as of late. It is NOT "clearly" becoming more safe. Just because no one has been shot up at Superdive (or that bars like Superdive even exist) doesn't make the neighborhood safe.<br /><br />You said it yourself, "you don't see how it was 'safer' back then," so AGAIN, with all due respect, shut up and stop telling people what they feel, because you weren't here and you DON'T know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-65501155696425469662009-09-17T11:09:41.692-04:002009-09-17T11:09:41.692-04:00yeah, i don't see how it was "safer"...yeah, i don't see how it was "safer" back then. actually - that is just a ludicrous comment. it was obviously NOT safer back then...it is clearly becoming more and more safe and obviously quite safe for the past 7+ years. <br /><br />you may have liked it better back then and today's EV may be different...but it is clearly safer now then it ever has been.<br /><br />like people don't get mugged / shot / etc... elsewhere in this city?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-51842756170041075772009-09-17T10:55:08.281-04:002009-09-17T10:55:08.281-04:00Please shut up, Anonymous 10:28, and stop telling ...Please shut up, Anonymous 10:28, and stop telling people how they feel.<br /><br />A recent increase in EV gun violence or not, I still always assume that anything can happen. Yes, the neighborhood has grown more affluent and <i>seems</i> safe to the NYU crowd, but it's still NYC. Walking around late night drunk out of your mind, or obliviously texting or listening to music, is STUPID. I think if you grew up here, or spent a lot of time here in decades past, this attitude remains with you (at least at 4 a.m.) no matter how upscale a neighborhood becomes.<br /><br />I indeed felt safer in my upper Avenue A building 10 years ago when the building had old ladies and yes, a drug dealer or two, because 1) people knew one another and 2) at least the drug dealers didn't prop open the front door all f*cking day while they hauled in their 32" flat screens and lacrosse equipment, unlike the rude, fratty dipshits I live with now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-67771751789091216332009-09-17T09:53:20.746-04:002009-09-17T09:53:20.746-04:00* and I'm not in fear of the increase number o...* and I'm not in fear of the increase number of shootings today; I'm in fear of the frat boys, the NYU kids, and the riches that have invaded the neighborhood.esquared™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03535683572170541615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-19518596884159052292009-09-17T09:42:27.917-04:002009-09-17T09:42:27.917-04:00Back in '81, there was a dead body (well, it w...Back in '81, there was a dead body (well, it would be) stuffed in a trunk across the street for weeks. Everyone knew but the cops. My block was a heavy dealing one--and I felt safer then.Barbara L. Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13691245293493324747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-84475267234391969772009-09-17T09:27:57.697-04:002009-09-17T09:27:57.697-04:00Yeah, I did feel safer walking around Alphabet Cit...Yeah, I did feel safer walking around Alphabet City/The Village back then. Nowadays, when I'm around this neighborhood, I find myself hugging myself -- like I'm in fear, and looking for some sort of security blanket. Tried to explain this to the newbie transplants acquaintances, but they just don't get it.esquared™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03535683572170541615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-25274111563231195902009-09-17T09:06:18.350-04:002009-09-17T09:06:18.350-04:00In the late 80s I used to go to the East River Par...In the late 80s I used to go to the East River Park and write in the park overlooking the river. The highway that skirted the park was like a protective shield from the dangerous Lower East Side. One day someone stabbed and killed a man right in the park. I never went back.<br /><br />Mick<br /><br />www.mykoladementiuk.comMykola Dementiukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02267125930152870083noreply@blogger.com