tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post8601111872509693965..comments2024-03-28T13:07:39.342-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: The Black Rose, 'a neighborhood rock and roll bar,' opening in the former Odessa Cafe and Bar spaceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-89658307414513122702015-08-13T20:07:08.846-04:002015-08-13T20:07:08.846-04:00Loud outdoor bars are not what NYC is about. I wou...Loud outdoor bars are not what NYC is about. I would not like my neighbor entertaining and blasting music every night of the week nor would they. I'm sure. Most of those outdoor areas are fire traps with no way out. Also the owners are supposed to section off an area within the garden for smokers to keep them of the street. Ck Board of Health website.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-39039983206769719302015-04-19T15:31:09.595-04:002015-04-19T15:31:09.595-04:00From the description, it sounds like it's goin...From the description, it sounds like it's going to be my kind of place, so I'll definitely check it out.<br /><br />And to the people complaining about the 4am bar-closing time: Welcome to New York.Marty E.http://www.twitter.com/mrmartyenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-56960304111729698872015-04-15T23:33:56.379-04:002015-04-15T23:33:56.379-04:00I don't another bar in the East Village, I wan...I don't another bar in the East Village, I want a new live music venue, record store, art gallery, book store, something which facilitates creativity like those things.<br /><br />How many bars does one neighborhood need?<br /><br />I mean if you're gonna open one at least have something creative in it? I'm sure some places do and props o them, but most of these places are just places to drink, nothing more.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-50345219180572583262015-04-15T16:56:46.895-04:002015-04-15T16:56:46.895-04:00The East Village 2015: People under 35 and the res...The East Village 2015: People under 35 and the rest who hate them, anything new, and everything in general.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-88412553763831438702015-04-15T15:16:03.322-04:002015-04-15T15:16:03.322-04:00Well said East Villager!!Well said East Villager!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-65448185805806920982015-04-15T14:10:49.650-04:002015-04-15T14:10:49.650-04:00The EV is now just angry entitled RS apt dwellers....The EV is now just angry entitled RS apt dwellers. They want quiet. No rock and roll. They say one thing but mean another. Sad. You are the types who really like the whitewashed homogenized EV. Close the bars at 11pm! No live music! No one under 25! Pathetic. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-68653685966764408942015-04-15T12:24:30.672-04:002015-04-15T12:24:30.672-04:00They were going to call it "The Doors" b...They were going to call it "The Doors" but then they heard that name was already taken by some band.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-31606686820503707032015-04-15T10:12:57.584-04:002015-04-15T10:12:57.584-04:00I'm going to just hope for a minute that it...I'm going to just hope for a minute that it's a Scrap Bar vibe for 2015. Who knows?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-46576238460810398092015-04-15T05:49:49.294-04:002015-04-15T05:49:49.294-04:00Jesus this is the least rock n' roll comment s...Jesus this is the least rock n' roll comment section of all time, could you people be any more boringAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-91225275358721022222015-04-15T02:50:05.148-04:002015-04-15T02:50:05.148-04:00Please vote with your $$$ and patronize the bars y...Please vote with your $$$ and patronize the bars you like. If Odessa could make it there they'd still be there. Sad but true. I live at street level (9th - half a block from the horrible 13th Step) and, sorry to say, I kind of like the noise. And the fact that Veselka can stay open 24/7 because there are enough patrons to do so. Not crazy about this area becoming anything like Hell Square in the LES... But I sure like the party atmosphere we have now. I'm glad I live in the city that never sleeps. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-3117755917577614612015-04-15T02:29:07.527-04:002015-04-15T02:29:07.527-04:00Er, Millennials luv dat sh!t. I've been dating...Er, Millennials luv dat sh!t. I've been dating a 27-year-old. I just said to him, "you don't seem to listen to anything that was recorded before you were born!" Karaoke with his pals? Same story. 80% pre-1980s. Go figure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-18658114512995295452015-04-14T22:41:13.069-04:002015-04-14T22:41:13.069-04:00What you mean, rock and roll? Cuz the rock and rol...What you mean, rock and roll? Cuz the rock and roll that I know, ain't gonna pay the bills in 2015 East Village.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-56037889833122105922015-04-14T22:18:30.779-04:002015-04-14T22:18:30.779-04:00If this isn't some theme-franchise joint, I pr...If this isn't some theme-franchise joint, I predict that it will become one - with locations (with identical decor from supplied kits) in Chicago, St. Louis, Austin, Toronto, Cleveland, and suburban Los Angeles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-41292700555556256792015-04-14T21:00:07.374-04:002015-04-14T21:00:07.374-04:00Scooby, we've been to Doc Holidays MANY times ...Scooby, we've been to Doc Holidays MANY times together and the music is so pumped I'd refer to it as weaponized, the atmosphere is loud as fuck, and there are a fair share of bros. I like all the bars I mentioned but please don't make them sound like church on Sunday. They're just as loud as any other bar. NOTORIOUSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-72598585209561521282015-04-14T18:36:55.580-04:002015-04-14T18:36:55.580-04:00"Bars are OK so long as they are called Manit..."Bars are OK so long as they are called Manitobas, Continental, Double Down or Doc Holidays." Yes - yes they are...<br /><br />And the people, for the most part, that go to THESE bars as REGULARS are respectful of the neighborhood upon exiting the bars. No - not ALL of them but far more than the "bros 'n hoes" places.<br /><br /> This does sound like a place that could be pretty cool - give 'em a chance before settin' up your gallows, ya wankers...<br /><br />Scoobynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-45299986360455278662015-04-14T18:34:02.149-04:002015-04-14T18:34:02.149-04:00Should be called 14th motherfucker step!Should be called 14th motherfucker step!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-39376448573408945202015-04-14T18:17:08.644-04:002015-04-14T18:17:08.644-04:00Who said anything about this bar offering live mus...Who said anything about this bar offering live music? You guys are making things up at this point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-76709466632063343412015-04-14T17:56:11.364-04:002015-04-14T17:56:11.364-04:00Ken said: "Last I checked this was NYC. If yo...Ken said: "Last I checked this was NYC. If you guys want quiet and peaceful nights, move up North. I agree with the lawn and cane comment."<br />STOP TELLING US TO MOVE if we can't stand loud, obnoxious, inconsiderate and selfish behavior!<br /><br />it takes bucks to live in a place that has a lawn. you need a car, and unless you work near your lawn you probably commute to the city for your job. and judging by your cane comment you probably think that everyone that objects to what's going on is too old to live here.<br />city folks used to be able to co-exist with bars and clubs and still live somewhere that was somewhat quiet and almost peaceful. tourists (and there were always tourists) respected residential neighborhoods.<br />fire engines, ambulances and garbage trucks can be ignored. stupid drunks that think it's cool to be loud and obnoxious can't.<br />universities took over, the club scene expanded, and roof top parties and bars proliferated.<br />the inconsiderate, loud, and selfish rule - as do greedy landlords, and patrons and visitors.<br />blue glassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-56521467950949308422015-04-14T17:49:21.388-04:002015-04-14T17:49:21.388-04:00@ 4:20 aren't bars / rest. required to close t...@ 4:20 aren't bars / rest. required to close their backyards after 10pm?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-64147917225026638302015-04-14T17:26:24.687-04:002015-04-14T17:26:24.687-04:00This is New York City, where bars stay open until ...This is New York City, where bars stay open until 4 am. That's why I'm here.TXCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-77329572547428083382015-04-14T16:54:58.871-04:002015-04-14T16:54:58.871-04:00Re Anon3:48pm: "Who ever invented car alarms ...Re Anon3:48pm: "Who ever invented car alarms s/b given life in prison."<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Issa#Directed_ElectronicsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-22192281562864294042015-04-14T16:53:41.052-04:002015-04-14T16:53:41.052-04:00I have no problem with a bar open until 4AM -- and...I have no problem with a bar open until 4AM -- and I think most here would agree as well, and we don't need to move to Queens, which has its own set of problems -- it's simply the quality of the clientele who spill out of those places these days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-19425646414457629582015-04-14T16:33:13.855-04:002015-04-14T16:33:13.855-04:00It's a personality (differences) crisis...
.....It's a personality (differences) crisis...<br /><br />...Change into the wolfman howlin' at the moon, HOOOwww....<br /><br />...But now, frustration and heartache is what you got.<br /><br /><br /><br />Wait.....what?....<br /><br />...What's love got to do with it?<br /><br /><br /><br />...work on through to the other side.DrBOPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07179469265158025584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-79427979495684459322015-04-14T16:27:46.090-04:002015-04-14T16:27:46.090-04:00Sounds good to me. I would be happy to hear it fea...Sounds good to me. I would be happy to hear it featured live rock, since we have lost so many live music venues over the years.<br /><br />Even recorded rock would be good though. Sure beats the top-40 trash that pervades most watering holes.<br /><br />I wish them success with this. Will check it out. <br /><br />Those concerned about the crowd: We make the crowd as well. Attend the place and help set the tone as you see fit.<br /><br />- East VillagerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-81718411711386390052015-04-14T16:27:21.816-04:002015-04-14T16:27:21.816-04:00Community Boards generally do not generally allow ...Community Boards generally do not generally allow new businesses like this to stay open until 4AM in residential areas. Instead they put them on a probation period for the first year wth a 1am or 2am closing time. If they prove they can operate without being a neighborhood nuisance then they can stay open later. <br /><br />If we don't want the EV to turn into Hell Square North then limits like this are necessary. Most operators opening clubs lie about their intentions and once they get the liquor license its too late to do anything about it. <br /><br />Last time I checked the EV was still a residential neighborhood, not 10th Avenue with all the noisy clubs that are open all night long and where rappers and NBA basketball players brawl and get stabbed at 4am. They need to put this place on probation untl they prove they can be a good neighbor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com