tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post2547341236150255053..comments2024-03-28T16:06:42.424-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: Is this wall a remnant of the former cemetery under Mary Help of Christians?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-48906932949600676392013-05-31T07:54:21.977-04:002013-05-31T07:54:21.977-04:00A little bit about Mary Help of Christians. Even i...A little bit about Mary Help of Christians. Even if we didn't know the history of E. 12th St. and its Italian heritage (preserved of course today by Bella Tile and deRobertis and Venero bakeries); we would still know that it was built for an Italian population. It is a model of Il Gésu in Rome. This was designed by Vignola and consecrated in 1584. Reproductions of this church can be found in every square in Latin America as the Jesuits spread Christianity in the new world and in many town squares in Italy. Il Gèsu is the mother of all Baroque churches. In our case, the style was selected so that recent immigrants would recognize the building as a church. On the upper east side, St. Igatius is a really fancy version of the same model. The theme of immigration and seeking support from Italian community preservationists such as Italian American Association and the John D. Callandra Institute at CUNY might be a path to pursue.Arrow Zelasnicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-84217200005685418592013-05-29T17:08:00.102-04:002013-05-29T17:08:00.102-04:00@Anon. 3:26, please skulk back to the real estate ...@Anon. 3:26, please skulk back to the real estate office you work in and leave this neighborhood to those of us who love it rather than hand it freely to those who see it as a place to be raped for their financial benefit. Not EVERYTHING needs to be developed. <br /><br />As to the wall, I may be mistaken, but isn't this the wall that forms the interior of Neptune's garden? That's an ancient stone bulwark, and looks just like the one in the picture. Always wondered where such a thing had come from - it is obviously not of this century - but the mystery may now have been cleared up for me. Gojiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-38050570578744336742013-05-29T15:26:13.238-04:002013-05-29T15:26:13.238-04:00It is a beautiful church, but not all churches can...It is a beautiful church, but not all churches can be preserved. Hopefully that will figure out to preserve at least the bell tower.<br /><br />The fact that a Catholic cemetry once was on this land does not justify holding up development by the new owner. I note no one cared or raised this objection when they built Open Road Park in the 1990s. Now that someone wants to develop the land on the lot of the former church and despite the fact that nothing archaeologically significant has been found to justify suspending development, people want to go on an exploratory archalogical dig. Fact is this is just an attempt to prevent the new owner from developing the property under the theory that somehow developing the property is a bad thing.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-70616165660277194492013-05-29T12:01:19.265-04:002013-05-29T12:01:19.265-04:00Someone needs to get Zelda Rubinstein on the phone...Someone needs to get Zelda Rubinstein on the phone.Spikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15243742157275437942noreply@blogger.com