tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post312176414176181979..comments2024-03-29T08:18:11.731-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: So this guy walks into the Mars Bar in a green shirt with a pink sweater around his shoulders...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-77910737661037121352012-07-16T11:03:19.063-04:002012-07-16T11:03:19.063-04:00He had that certain confidence in his bearing, tha...<i>He had that certain confidence in his bearing, that democratic interest in his surroundings, and that understated presumption of friendliness that are only found in young men who have been raised in the company of money and manners. It didn't occur to people like this that they might be unwelcome in a new environment--and as a result, they rarely were.</i><br /><br />--Amor Towles, <i>Rules of Civility</i>esquared™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03535683572170541615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-88475609571319423252009-07-25T01:18:10.972-04:002009-07-25T01:18:10.972-04:00Why can't a guy just have a drink in a bar wit...Why can't a guy just have a drink in a bar without you haters judging and looking down on him??? You don't know him. I hang at the Mars Bar too, in my eyes It's a sweet bar run by open minded people. I would love to see something different than old smelly Lou Reed neverwas and wannabes hanging at my joint day in and day out.. Sluta hata så jävla mycket!!!Eriknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-77400103228159877062009-06-02T02:51:29.303-04:002009-06-02T02:51:29.303-04:00I am not the guy wearing the sweater, but if I had...I am not the guy wearing the sweater, but if I had to make an educated guess I would venture to say that under that sweater he may well be sporting a spectacular Three Wolves Moon Tshirt.<br />http://www.amazon.com/Three-T-Shirt-Available-Various-Sizes/dp/B000NZW3IYEden Beehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09568918709989534443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-76892778701591871652009-06-01T12:32:26.647-04:002009-06-01T12:32:26.647-04:00Well said, Goggla.Well said, Goggla.EV Grievehttp://evgrieve.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-59412724440205260932009-06-01T12:24:12.406-04:002009-06-01T12:24:12.406-04:00You're all over-thinking this. Have any of you ac...You're all over-thinking this. Have any of you actually been in? I spent over 8 hours in there yesterday (yeah, call me what ever you want) and I can tell you no one gives a sh*t what you wear.<br /> <br />An asshole is an asshole...if you go in, tip decently, keep your mouth shut and don't pick a fight, it's a great place to hang out. I go there because they treat me like family. People seem to project their fantasies on this place - you want it to be a punk hellhole, that's what you see. You want it to be your secret hideaway where you can be anonymous, that's what it is. You can make it the new kitchy place to be as well...it's just a bar, albeit one that houses some of the most colorful characters in the city and just happens to be a portal to hell.<br /><br />Go in on a Sunday and you'll actually find many of the regulars all dolled up. Most of them clean up quite nicely.Laura Goggin Photographyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15517481509431547970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-71302462152886554522009-06-01T11:40:06.907-04:002009-06-01T11:40:06.907-04:00ok, but WAS HE TIPPING?! and not like that "oh, he...ok, but WAS HE TIPPING?! and not like that "oh, here's a freaking quarter for your troubles on this $4.75 drink" but like "here's $1 or $1.25 or $5.00 (heh) for your troubles."<br /><br />hint. hint. nudge.akhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798970763857236245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-45552135686212723802009-06-01T10:06:50.654-04:002009-06-01T10:06:50.654-04:00And anon 9:41's comment above is the freakin best ...And anon 9:41's comment above is the freakin best comment of all. Amazing that the "downtown individualists" who don't want to be judged do the same exact judging. Whoever this guy was, and for whatever reason he dressed like that, my first thought was this is probably some guy dressing like this (come on, it's pretty extreme, even for a true prep) just for the irony, to just fuck with everyone around him and at the bar. But who knows? All it looks to me is some guy, dressed completely differently than everyone else at the bar, comes in to relax and have a drink.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-74030596817048783572009-06-01T09:41:39.253-04:002009-06-01T09:41:39.253-04:00i've got an idea:
apply just the slightest bit o...i've got an idea: <br /><br />apply just the slightest bit of critical thought to this scenario and consider, just momentarily, that perhaps there's a better way to judge one's merit than how he/she is dressed.<br /><br />is this a highschool hallway, for god's sake? grow the fuck up. further more, you missed the fucking point. bars like mars bar, and neighborhoods like the east village aren't about homogony, they're about open-mindedness. They're not about carving out a place of our own, they're about carving out a place where anybody can be anything. and that includes people that you all didn't like at your yuppie, 40k private colleges. <br /><br />fucking deal with it. you are the exact opposite of openminded. and why is that the case? because you don't think you have to consciously be open-minded. you think your "downtown" clothes establish it for you. <br /><br />idiots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-46156210772261000642009-05-31T11:39:07.046-04:002009-05-31T11:39:07.046-04:00I didn't like Scream Queen's comment: >...I didn't like Scream Queen's comment: >>Personally I find the pink and green look kind of novel and interesting. It's certainly better than a frat boy look. << <br /><br />Where I come from, frat boys and preppie pink and greens were the same thing. I went to school at a disturbingly preppie place where the preps/frat boys were pretty racist, smug, oblivious, and money hungry. I escaped to downtown New York 5 days after graduation. I didn't appreciate it when the preps started feeling comfortable downtown, because they already felt WAY TOO comfortable all over the rest of the East Coast. Let the freaks have 2 fucking square miles.Karen Lillishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04043287948900464811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-31115620074345301732009-05-30T16:26:14.595-04:002009-05-30T16:26:14.595-04:00only what are "MARS aesthetics"? other than "blind...only what are "MARS aesthetics"? other than "blindingly drunk" - i'm not really sure what the aesthetics are.akhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798970763857236245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-34418393265717475712009-05-30T16:09:13.880-04:002009-05-30T16:09:13.880-04:00The thing is, if a punk person were to walk in to ...The thing is, if a punk person were to walk in to one of these wine or hotel bars, he/she would probably be turned away at the door. And if they do make it past the door, they would either get shitty service or no service at all and be ridiculed by the patrons. Point being, what goes around comes around. <br /><br />A punk person is offensive to the sanitized yunnies. And this guy is offensive to the punks. He need not be rude, loud or take up the whole bar with 10 other people to be offensive. <br /><br />I'm sure most of the commenters here that had defended this guy have judged people based on one's appearance on the street/work/restaurants, such as wearing white after labor day, mixing incompatible colors or outfits, etc. etc. <br /><br />Yes, NYC or EV is about individuality, but ever since this fellow and his Bloomberg clones have gentrified NYC, that individuality is out of the door. <br /><br />If they expect us to conform to the SATC norms, then they should also conform to the MARS aesthetics. Then again, they are narcissists; they only think of themselves. He probably needed some sort of feeling of superiority by going into MARS bar.duckynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-75920004044981019792009-05-30T15:14:51.113-04:002009-05-30T15:14:51.113-04:00"Screaming Queens Entertainment" has my favorite c..."Screaming Queens Entertainment" has my favorite comment yet - so true, so true. <br /><br />and truth be told, there prolly is a ratty soiled shirt or leather something for the guy to wear if he so desired. basically, if the guy fuckin tipped, he's awesome by me.akhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798970763857236245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-57378705529278046742009-05-30T12:33:48.423-04:002009-05-30T12:33:48.423-04:00>>The Mars bar should have provided him prop...>>The Mars bar should have provided him proper attire like a good country club would. Surely they have an extra ratty leather jacket for a poor soul out of the proper uniform!<<<br /><br />This is my favorite comment now. What a great idea. Reminds me that Richard Leck told me stories about restaurants in midtown in the early 60s that had a rack of coats for downtowners who didn't have one. You had to wear one to be seated, so...Karen Lillishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04624398526912042847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-91403620071477358242009-05-30T09:05:17.117-04:002009-05-30T09:05:17.117-04:00what, did someone post your pic on Look At This Fu...what, did someone post your pic on Look At This Fucking Hipster, so now you have to mock non-hipsters in return?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-3572289222283064882009-05-30T01:52:13.891-04:002009-05-30T01:52:13.891-04:00That guy is more punk rock than anyone in the bar,...That guy is more punk rock than anyone in the bar, and anyone on this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-15999333770225245722009-05-29T23:20:09.714-04:002009-05-29T23:20:09.714-04:00I don't get it. Did this guy act obnoxious? Did ...I don't get it. Did this guy act obnoxious? Did he come in with ten friends and take up the whole bar? Was he yelling belligerently? Did he order a sour-apple martini? Or are you so-called New Yorkers all judging this guy solely on what he was wearing? I was raised to think that New York equalled live and let live; can't that extend to drink and let drink, no matter the color of one's sweater?Elizabethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-80055504238688818092009-05-29T22:40:08.416-04:002009-05-29T22:40:08.416-04:00Brett! You need to work harder at keepin' your dou...Brett! You need to work harder at keepin' your double life on the dl.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-84468733770748134732009-05-29T22:27:29.588-04:002009-05-29T22:27:29.588-04:00The Mars bar should have provided him proper attir...The Mars bar should have provided him proper attire like a good country club would. Surely they have an extra ratty leather jacket for a poor soul out of the proper uniform!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-71508783126682692962009-05-29T22:04:27.244-04:002009-05-29T22:04:27.244-04:00I've been in the East Village for 20 years and hav...I've been in the East Village for 20 years and have spent much of that time running around as a crazy drag queen. Personally I find the pink and green look kind of novel and interesting. It's certainly better than a frat boy look. Most guys wouldn't be caught dead in pink. <br /><br />And, while I wouldn't call it "punk", there is certainly a dressed up "dandy" movement going on in alternative circles lately. Every other person on the street has been wearing distressed jeans for a decade. It's refreshing to see someone with a look that's a bit more individual. <br /><br />I also think the fact that he came in alone is commendable. it's not like a bunch of disruptive people came in and acted like assholes.Screaming Queens Entertainmenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11925987969199418490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-11640967936804125362009-05-29T20:51:50.433-04:002009-05-29T20:51:50.433-04:00Bowery Wine Company is right down First St, BTW Ma...Bowery Wine Company is right down First St, BTW Mars Bar & Bowery in the new building.Media gluthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07338948037718606190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-20996656904465804252009-05-29T19:32:00.449-04:002009-05-29T19:32:00.449-04:00"Where's Bowery Wine Company?" Funny. I have a sh..."Where's Bowery Wine Company?" Funny. I have a shot of knuckle-tattooed guy texting inside Mars from several years ago: http://www.visualdiaries.com/nostalgia13.html and a guy smoking outside with an early iPod: http://www.visualdiaries.com/variance15.html Can't help myself from staring every time I walk by.Caryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854393264307708890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-25292566824791519402009-05-29T19:21:53.134-04:002009-05-29T19:21:53.134-04:00Back in 1997 this sweater guy would have gotten hi...Back in 1997 this sweater guy would have gotten his ass kicked, albeit, by a drunken heroin addict who couldn't do a lot of damage, but still....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-27780375469204805062009-05-29T19:13:24.656-04:002009-05-29T19:13:24.656-04:00This is getting ridiculous. Wearing a pink shirt ...This is getting ridiculous. Wearing a pink shirt and green sweater is not "punk". And its also something I would do a double take on in Midtown, let alone a dive bar.<br /><br />The conversations about how things are less cool happen because things really are less cool. The complaining is happening because you get get country club just about anywhere else in the US. If you lose what was unique about New York, you just get a more expensive and crowded version of the rest of the US, which kind of sucks.prodigal sonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-59779239789325334222009-05-29T16:52:28.757-04:002009-05-29T16:52:28.757-04:00tho, i forgot to add - "dish of sherbet" is hilari...tho, i forgot to add - "dish of sherbet" is hilarious wording.akhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798970763857236245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-70668735554955565972009-05-29T16:50:10.226-04:002009-05-29T16:50:10.226-04:00eh, mars bar has a huge wide variety of clientele....eh, mars bar has a huge wide variety of clientele. <br /><br />and this whole commenter conversation reminds me of those ive-been-in-ny-x-amount-of years/this-place-is-less-cool-than-x-years-ago/this-place-has-gotten-so-gentrified etc.. bar conversations. geez, i think i'm gonna need a vodka or five.akhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798970763857236245noreply@blogger.com