tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post3166662062719848285..comments2024-03-18T19:27:54.524-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: The Archdiocese of New York is shutting down the St. Brigid School on Avenue B and 7th StreetUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-39050481942909779102019-03-11T00:49:26.287-04:002019-03-11T00:49:26.287-04:00The Catholic Archodiesce should be ashamed. They h...The Catholic Archodiesce should be ashamed. They have sold the land on East 12 th st and ave.A of a beautiful church to that luxury development.<br />They have shuttered the church on 2nd ave.and 5th which could and should be re-purposed as a shelter./homeless canteen ...<br /><br />The closure of a school in the East Village is another shocking example of how far real estate interests have taken over everything in NY.<br />The Catholic Church in NY is very ,very rich.<br />It is shameful that they are closing churches and schools without any plans to re-integrate them into communities and work toward the common good and welfare that all churches' and faiths missions were meant to work towards.<br />Isn't it time they use their spaces for good, rather than greed, as was their purpose in the past.?Kritihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10450332766156110147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-43985855164393883212019-02-08T00:01:10.576-05:002019-02-08T00:01:10.576-05:00@anon 4:51:
Churches don't pay taxes for the ...@anon 4:51:<br /><br />Churches don't pay taxes for the same reason that billionaires don't pay taxes - political muscle. The mechanisms involved are totally different, however.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-64275519231572051282019-02-07T16:51:09.411-05:002019-02-07T16:51:09.411-05:00Why don't churches ever have to pay taxes? Wh...Why don't churches ever have to pay taxes? Why are they immune? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-1791215416951995582019-02-07T09:37:17.580-05:002019-02-07T09:37:17.580-05:00If my memory serves me correct the donor of the tw...If my memory serves me correct the donor of the twenty million also in that sum placed some money for the operational expenses of the school. The generosity of the donor to save St.Brigid Church with "his" money should not be questioned as if it should be spent on the school instead. He did in fact allocate a portion of his gift to the school. The fact is fewer parents seek a faith based education for their children and tuition affords additional barriers. The Archdiocese will sell for the highest dollar it can get for the land it was prepared to do this at St.Brigid until a knight with a wallet showed up. It closed St.Emeric instead combining the congregations. The Catholic population in NYC has been declining for decades other sales; Brutalist style Church on Second Ave (really Ugly) and the Church, Rectory and Elementary school on Ave A btwn 11 and 12 that were in poor shape. <br />The Archdioceses will get its silver. The land however can not be rezoned to new zoning requirements increasing height and bulk to rationalize the price of the land, on this the community must stand strong. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-36094193695795668312019-02-07T00:29:41.836-05:002019-02-07T00:29:41.836-05:00That's what the Archdiocese will tell you. The...That's what the Archdiocese will tell you. The money from selling property goes the parish. What they won't be so eager to tell you is that the Archdiocese takes a 50% tax from parishes when they sell property. So on reality they only keep half the money and the Archdiocese takes the other half.Samuel J. Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12766238466391394665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-19108988351296405282019-02-06T21:54:57.524-05:002019-02-06T21:54:57.524-05:00Honestly, I view the Catholic Church much like the...Honestly, I view the Catholic Church much like the mob. Organized crime at it finest. Cover up the crimes of those closest to you. Lie. Cover your tracks. Deny everything. Perpetuate the obvious without getting caught. Move to a new location Never pay taxes. Infinite sums of money in secret places. Pretend nothing ever happens. Go to church. Pray. And repeat. I don't see how this organization can remain relevant without accountability and a significant rebrand. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-61833079496868865632019-02-06T21:31:45.033-05:002019-02-06T21:31:45.033-05:00The Director of Admissions at St Brigid School sho...The Director of Admissions at St Brigid School should be really held accountable where student numbers are concerned. Falling from 240, when she started out at the school 4 years ago, to 119 today ??????<br />Her lack of professionalism to potential incoming families and attending families was really unacceptable.<br />How she was allowed to continue her career at the school really poses questions, many attending families wrote letters of complaint to the Arch and no one listened.<br />Was her positioning at the school purposely done by the Arch with the idea that she would force the attending families to leave and others not to sign up. It’s baffling to figure out, your trying to grow a school and you have somebody as uncaring and as disorganized as this human being in the drivers seat ????<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-81044925999131706502019-02-06T16:11:15.119-05:002019-02-06T16:11:15.119-05:00@10:04pm: I think you're wrong about that, but...@10:04pm: I think you're wrong about that, but I swear to it. I just know that the several parishes I ever belonged to that were wiped out by Dolan never saw a penny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-31971379808264249872019-02-06T13:46:43.277-05:002019-02-06T13:46:43.277-05:00Our Real Estate Developers in Bloomberg's bill...Our Real Estate Developers in Bloomberg's billionaire's heaven, <br />hallowed be thy name. <br />Your kingdom come, your will be done, <br />on East Village as it is in NYC. <br />Give us this day our daily brunch, <br />And forgive us our soulcycling,<br />as we forgive them that Citibike against us;<br />And lead us not into Santacon temptation,<br />But deliver us from NIMBYS. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-74811481228958484692019-02-06T09:38:23.275-05:002019-02-06T09:38:23.275-05:00I see a shiny, overpriced condo soon replacing thi...I see a shiny, overpriced condo soon replacing this corner where units will go for over 1.5 million. Only in NYC kids. Its all about bling $$$$Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-60404711415154432352019-02-06T04:58:00.567-05:002019-02-06T04:58:00.567-05:00Amen!Amen!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-21342698009639201592019-02-05T23:18:17.505-05:002019-02-05T23:18:17.505-05:00Ladies and Gents, Pay their legal bills at the exp...Ladies and Gents, Pay their legal bills at the expense of the children and parents. Faith is not at risk just the bank accounts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-49365531745432753432019-02-05T22:04:25.721-05:002019-02-05T22:04:25.721-05:00I may be mistaken but I believe that when a part o...I may be mistaken but I believe that when a part of a parish is sold the money stays with the parish. And if the parish is closed, the money is shared by the nearby parishes. It's worth checking... if you are concerned.cmarrtyyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06948995395819496180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-16301041011770445642019-02-05T21:49:24.271-05:002019-02-05T21:49:24.271-05:00The same developer will buy the school and The Boy...The same developer will buy the school and The Boys Club and the city will sell air rights over Tompkins Park so it can build a sky bridge between them. This way they will only need one indoor pool and gym for both. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-69507323282176924332019-02-05T20:54:14.427-05:002019-02-05T20:54:14.427-05:00Yes it's really obvious that the church is try...Yes it's really obvious that the church is trying to recoup the money they have to pay to defend child molesters and pay for the many law suits that have been filed against them. It's a shame that local parishes and schools are the targets for the money they need. Heaven forbid they should tap the 10-15 billion dollars of estimated wealth of the Vatican to pay for all of this.<br /><br />Last year the church launched a "Renew, Rebuild" campaign (on top of their annual Cardinal's Appeal) asking parishioners to pledge monthly tithes which I am sure was to pay for these very same issues.<br /><br />As long as the Catholic Church refuses to allow priests to marry this situation will not go away. But that too comes down to money. Let's face it - if a priest marries and then divorces the church might have to pay alimony and/or child support. <br /><br />Sad, whether in religion or politics it always comes down to money.Carol from East 5th Streetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-42857635590754267052019-02-05T20:38:17.245-05:002019-02-05T20:38:17.245-05:00Enrollment is low. It has been for years. That'...Enrollment is low. It has been for years. That's definitely part of it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-58081456489014008952019-02-05T20:00:27.644-05:002019-02-05T20:00:27.644-05:00What else.. money..it's always money..What else.. money..it's always money..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01012328886968546479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-70579831824652606422019-02-05T17:39:43.042-05:002019-02-05T17:39:43.042-05:00As a former altar boy and Catholic school student,...As a former altar boy and Catholic school student, I agree with one of the commenters. This is probably a resolve to many of its mounting legal issues/battles surrounding the enormous sexual abuse it has imposed on the lives of so many. Decades of molestation concealed by priests, archbishops and cardinals are now surfacing to haunt them as it should. And, yes I would possibly consider returning to that faith IF and WHEN they stopped promoting homophobia and touting hypocrisy as its currency. It's never going to happen. I was often told in class, "Love the sinner. Hate the sin." Or," You can be a homosexual. You just can't act on it." The problem is priests can also enter into a confessional, atone for their sins, pray, and do it all over again to another helpless, innocent child. I am much happier as an infidel and as an out gay man than being perpetually judged and ridiculed in an organized religion as I live "a deviant lifestyle." <br /><br />Catholic School has a collective no longer carries the same weight as it did during my childhood and adolescence of the 80's and 90's when I attended it. I am lucky nothing happened to me personally, yet I know many whose lives were forever altered and destroyed by the hands of other priests who got their way with them and covered up their dirty deeds by being transferred to another parish or school. The Catholic System for the most part is impossible to be financially sustained given our present and ever changing climate, not to mention the payoffs to the countless number of their victims from all over the world. The loss of St. Bridget is devastating for our community. It is, however, just one of the many ensuing closures from the NYC archdiose is facing and beyond. At the end of the day, it is about money, which they seem to be lacking as of late. I hope the students of St. Bridget will find another home to learn and grow soon. Peace. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-73413065710199888482019-02-05T16:10:36.722-05:002019-02-05T16:10:36.722-05:00I love this church. I sincerely hope there is no ...I love this church. I sincerely hope there is no foul play at that school and I truly hope no children have been abused. If so expose shame and punish the culprit and to the angel that paid the 20 million to save the church last time you better run him his/her money back with interest, PERIOD.<br /><br /> GOD HELP US ALLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-14255117668828655892019-02-05T14:47:23.854-05:002019-02-05T14:47:23.854-05:00It would be very nice if the anonymous donor came ...It would be very nice if the anonymous donor came forward again to save this school.<br /><br />What Dolan is doing to Catholic education (and to the people of NYC) with closing schools & churches in order to sell of the real estate is going to backfire big-time.<br /><br />Simply stated: if you don't have the schools, you're going to have completely empty pews in the churches in the future.<br /><br />I realize some people will say "yay" to that, but as someone who benefited greatly from an excellent and FREE Catholic school education back in the day (an education good enough to get me offers of scholarships from multiple universities, including Pratt and NYU), I know what Catholic schools can offer.<br /><br />And the families and faculty of St. Brigid's deserve far better than this underhanded move.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-23051394945518765372019-02-05T13:49:00.338-05:002019-02-05T13:49:00.338-05:00Why is the anonymous donor scratching "his&qu...Why is the anonymous donor scratching "his" head? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-3101635076136605242019-02-05T13:47:20.825-05:002019-02-05T13:47:20.825-05:00I will be onboard with children getting a "Ca...I will be onboard with children getting a "Catholic education" when the church stops promoting homophobia. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-29874532704027880742019-02-05T13:14:22.241-05:002019-02-05T13:14:22.241-05:00Ok I'll say it... The Catholic Church needs mo...Ok I'll say it... The Catholic Church needs money to pay for all the molestation settlements in recent years. The church is sitting on very valuable property all of which has been tax free since.... Attendance in most traditional houses of worship has dwindled, after all being "spiritual" means you don't have to leave your home anymore. My Catholic school closed in the late 60's and my first experience at a public school was in the 6th grade. I'm impressed St Brigid last to this day. <br /><br />I think this property should be handed over to the NYC and be used for social programs and the church should not be allowed to sell it for condos. This tax free status has expired now it is time to give this land back to the people of the neighborhood. noble neolanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15721532867336440260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-85192366080464057232019-02-05T12:44:47.804-05:002019-02-05T12:44:47.804-05:00It was just announced on the news that the archdio...It was just announced on the news that the archdiocese is closing 7 schools in several boroughs. I wonder if they were all notified in the same despicable way...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-30040625147072215832019-02-05T12:10:06.783-05:002019-02-05T12:10:06.783-05:00If the school closes what happens to the church. H...If the school closes what happens to the church. How viable will it be? Boy, the unknown donor who gave the 20mill to renovate it must be scratching his head. They're going to tear it down anyway! <br /><br />It makes you wonder why the church was renovated to begin with. The 20 mill should have been spent on the school - renovation and scholarships. It's the tuition that keeps catholic schools empty. <br /><br />The Archdiocese should sell the church and use the money for the school. The education the school provides is better FOR STUDENTS NOW AND IN THE FUTURE than having a half empty church just sitting there. BE CREATIVE!cmarrtyyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06948995395819496180noreply@blogger.com