tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post4469781650007641479..comments2024-03-29T00:45:13.544-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: Starbucks confirmed for 219 First Ave., former home to Allen Ginsberg's favorite Chinese restaurantUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-77076423724341482012-08-29T13:22:12.872-04:002012-08-29T13:22:12.872-04:00Does anyone else miss Mee Noodle? That was some go...Does anyone else miss Mee Noodle? That was some good cheap Chinese food.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-60684882303890806172012-06-18T00:34:57.524-04:002012-06-18T00:34:57.524-04:00im running out of ways to express things in words....im running out of ways to express things in words.touristnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-56170404943237194882012-06-13T10:35:49.632-04:002012-06-13T10:35:49.632-04:00Starbucks employees get health insurance. I'm ...Starbucks employees get health insurance. I'm conflicted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-35964530506297713012012-06-12T18:00:01.974-04:002012-06-12T18:00:01.974-04:00Uh, folks, as has been pointed out on this blog be...Uh, folks, as has been pointed out on this blog before: Arguing over who is morally superior for choosing whatever shop to purchase a $2 cup of coffee is ... shall we say ... not exactly fighting for world peace? <br /><br />Does the Bean offer its full-time employees health insurance? Starbucks does. Does the bean take an international stand (or, more in its back yard: a local stand) on issues, such as gay marriage? <br /><br />Also: If I'm not mistaken, isn't the building I pass each day on the M8 bus -- the "re-imagined" East Village tenement on 9th Street -- somewhat of an architectural pox on the history of the Lower East Side? Isn't it owned by a somewhat notorious landlord? So, isn't the Bean, in effect, somehow participating in the "gentrification" of the East Village? For that matter, isn't a fancy coffee shop, in and of itself -- no matter the owner -- gentrification? <br /><br />There are things to decry in this neighborhood; in my neighborhood (our neighborhood). The over-saturation of liquor licenses that have turned this neighborhood into an all-night carnival. The city's lack of tending to our rat-infested park. Greedy landlords pushing out long-time, rent-controlled tenants to free apartments to be rented and exorbitant market rates. The lack of a long-term plan to integrate public housing more thoughtfully and sustainably into the larger community (crime-infested tower blocks that warehouse people shoehorned into the corners of the city isn't it). The eviction of seniors from the Cabrini nursing home on 5th Street. <br /><br />Coffee shops of any kind might be a symbol of, perhaps, overdevelopment or a lack of respect for a well-balanced streetscape. (That is to say: Chains have a place, but so do independent businesses, and so zoning and other restrictions should take pains to ensure a good mix.) <br /><br />But to argue The Bean vs. Starbucks as some kind of avatar of our times is simply misguided. Dare I even say a distraction. Dare I even say ... plain-old stupid.Bradnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-76147843785366373242012-06-12T16:56:01.375-04:002012-06-12T16:56:01.375-04:00let's picket!let's picket!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-69445886975790803452012-06-12T14:45:55.425-04:002012-06-12T14:45:55.425-04:00I'm looking forward to when the East Village i...I'm looking forward to when the East Village is just 1 giant Starbucks, so I can get my coffee without stepping out in the rain. We could have underground tunnels connecting all the blocks together!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-63427480755171664742012-06-12T13:00:26.548-04:002012-06-12T13:00:26.548-04:00Time to look in the mirror. Can't wholly blame...Time to look in the mirror. Can't wholly blame Starbucks anymore. We are the consumers, we are the problem. It's a whole new demographic around here at this point. I know because I've talked to some of my neighbors who are recent college grads from places like Wake Forest or Villanova or Bucknell etc. I've heard it from the horse's mouth--there is a whole culture here of these type of transplants. They really do hang out together at places like "13th step" and they really are clueless about this neighborhood and what it once was. It's a tidal wave, it's an epochal shift. The EV as you knew it is officially over. I hate to be a defeatist but IMO it is time to wave the white flag. I myself am planning to move out within a couple of years and it is the thought of that helps get me through my New York days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-9943320074677403652012-06-12T12:53:06.139-04:002012-06-12T12:53:06.139-04:00So does Hot & Crusty going independent count a...So does Hot & Crusty going independent count as a victory or something?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-39228869508297103442012-06-12T12:10:48.888-04:002012-06-12T12:10:48.888-04:00Re: "uppity" service at non-chain cafes....Re: "uppity" service at non-chain cafes. Corporations would love to return to slave labor--their profits would be much higher if they didn't have to pay those pesky benefits and living wages. Non-chain employees I guess seem "uppity" when they expect more out of a job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-78802618339955214352012-06-12T12:05:50.169-04:002012-06-12T12:05:50.169-04:00I don't even go to the Bean anymore because of...I don't even go to the Bean anymore because of the obnoxious patrons. All I see is people sitting on their laptops, I can't even relax. But I do respect the mosaic work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-52011940511539347172012-06-12T12:00:46.080-04:002012-06-12T12:00:46.080-04:00I wish that more businesses were ready to go to wa...I wish that more businesses were ready to go to war with the lousy greedy landlords rather than to be carpetbaggers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-32852386857182734512012-06-12T11:58:05.526-04:002012-06-12T11:58:05.526-04:00Don't fuck with The Bagel Guy. Hahaha....Don't fuck with The Bagel Guy. Hahaha....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-64420810058476676442012-06-12T11:45:43.664-04:002012-06-12T11:45:43.664-04:00I like BagelGuy's attitude and wish more local...I like BagelGuy's attitude and wish more local businesses were ready to go to war with chains like Starbucks.Marty Wombacherhttp://www.trippingwithmarty.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-5011614819464206832012-06-12T11:40:49.783-04:002012-06-12T11:40:49.783-04:00In my opinion, Tarallucci, City Bakery, Mud, Venei...In my opinion, Tarallucci, City Bakery, Mud, Veneiro's, and DeRobertis, have better coffee, food, and atmosphere than Starbucks and The Bean so there will be no need to frequent either of these establishments.elysehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17646964982471886355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-13794118239880340282012-06-12T11:37:24.492-04:002012-06-12T11:37:24.492-04:00The Bean wants to be chain as well 2 within 7 blo...The Bean wants to be chain as well 2 within 7 blocks and another 1 on broadwayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-27219284928276174412012-06-12T11:21:23.666-04:002012-06-12T11:21:23.666-04:00On First Ave there's a Starbucks at 17th Stree...On First Ave there's a Starbucks at 17th Street, 9th Street, and the one everyone mocks at 3rd Street. <br /><br />On Second Ave there's the freak show Starbucks at 9th Street.<br /><br />On Third Ave there's a Starbucks at 15th Street.<br /><br />This expansion seems rather aggressive in a Subway kind of way, no?THE NOTORIOUS L.I.B.E.R.A.T.I.O.N.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-15017850215788670962012-06-12T10:56:23.990-04:002012-06-12T10:56:23.990-04:00I'm not welcoming another Starbucks, but I'...I'm not welcoming another Starbucks, but I'm also not getting sentimental about a plot of land where a building once stood where there was once a restaurant which a writer who has been dead 15 years apparently liked.Wilfridhttp://www.pinkpignyc.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-42870117426270805002012-06-12T10:42:39.917-04:002012-06-12T10:42:39.917-04:00omg! allen ginsbergs favorite chinese restaurant! ...omg! allen ginsbergs favorite chinese restaurant! let's not allow anybody pay rent to run their business there! especially some company with the means to actually pay their rent!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-25453388241622949622012-06-12T10:21:47.916-04:002012-06-12T10:21:47.916-04:00I'm waiting patiently for a Starbucks on Ave A...I'm waiting patiently for a Starbucks on Ave A so I can kick their butts all the way back to Seattle. I'm your kryptonite Schultz.BagelGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00155261136809679167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-57448540629529002322012-06-12T10:21:04.027-04:002012-06-12T10:21:04.027-04:00Actually, Jeremiah, there's THREE on 1st Ave, ...Actually, Jeremiah, there's THREE on 1st Ave, if you count the one b/t 16th and 17th. I do -- it may not be *technical* EV but it's not exactly Gramercy either. And it's also just three short blocks away from this latest shitshow.<br /><br />I went on a very special lunch date at Mee when I was just about to move to the hood. Sweet memories. I can't even believe this is the same place.LvVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-57330868990374362122012-06-12T10:12:05.974-04:002012-06-12T10:12:05.974-04:00Kurt, I didn't know playground rules applied h...Kurt, I didn't know playground rules applied here. Will Starbucks think I'm less of a man/woman now? What I told you I meant that we should <i>figuratively</i> fuck shit up? Am I a metaphorical coward? You can throw rocks, I'll hang posters. Let's just agree to choose different windows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-17470643882815333882012-06-12T10:08:48.220-04:002012-06-12T10:08:48.220-04:00"This is the way the world ends
This is the w..."This is the way the world ends<br />This is the way the world ends<br />This is the way the world ends<br />Not with a bang but a whimper."<br />Or the 80’s version: "It's over Johnny. It's over!"<br />I was a Mee regular as well (at least once a week). The one on 2nd Ave just does not compare.<br />I know, both quotes are over the top but the EV is really on life support at this point. Like, Yah.Crazy Eddienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-76364981614025182572012-06-12T09:55:34.356-04:002012-06-12T09:55:34.356-04:00*on or in the water, doesn't matter, Starbucks...*on or in the water, doesn't matter, Starbucks will be there.esquared™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03535683572170541615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-11398106895994412292012-06-12T09:46:24.174-04:002012-06-12T09:46:24.174-04:00The original Bean was in a Magnum/Ben Shaoul build...The original Bean was in a Magnum/Ben Shaoul building. The new location is in an Icon Realty Building, don't tell me The Bean didn't know. While Starbucks is bad The Bean is no better because it masks what Icon is doing. They should have just left it alone after the Second Avenue location and looked for another spot other than 147 First Avenue. Also there is another cafe on First and 10th which has excellent food and drinks. They are a bit uppity and at this point the place turns into a wine bar, it didn't start out that way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-40024445637205997602012-06-12T09:43:27.800-04:002012-06-12T09:43:27.800-04:00@ Anon - 9:21 when you say this like, "Time t...@ Anon - 9:21 when you say this like, "Time to fuck shit up. Let Starbucks know they aren't welcome." You should at least have the balls to put your name to it.Kurtnoreply@blogger.com