tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post4914046347947810807..comments2024-03-28T15:20:37.320-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: From Kingston with loveUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-17627283949539366902012-06-28T16:34:22.000-04:002012-06-28T16:34:22.000-04:00It's cool. It's hard to read tone over the...It's cool. It's hard to read tone over the internet. I wasn't even tense until this morning's comment, I know you are a regular here and a decent person. But this bar concept troubles me. Just because it comes in a beautiful package (NYMag has pics, and it's gorgeous) from well-intentioned and intelligent people doesn't mean it can't be criticized. <br /><br />peaceLvVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-33610947193186738422012-06-28T14:57:20.843-04:002012-06-28T14:57:20.843-04:00ha, sorry just trying to ease the tension. You ha...ha, sorry just trying to ease the tension. You have the right to be outraged by anything, not taking that away from you. Just kind of giving these guys the benefit of doubt. <br /><br />The views and opinions expressed by Hey19 are his own, and do not apply to EV Greive, or any other commenter. Consult your financial advisor. Some side effects may occur. <br /><br />LvV, I owe you a rum drink after all this, didnt mean to get confrontational.Hey19noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-17774077989733938412012-06-28T13:48:44.124-04:002012-06-28T13:48:44.124-04:00Thank you so much for letting me know what is triv...Thank you so much for letting me know what is trivial and below consideration! You’re right, why should I decide for myself what issues to prioritize when Hey19, with his objective, rational perspective, can tell me exactly what is most important. <br /><br />Unless something is Jim Crow-levels of racist, I guess there’s no point in speaking out about it. Thank you for setting me straight!LvVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-26808293471711572652012-06-28T12:41:29.747-04:002012-06-28T12:41:29.747-04:00There are so many things that are actually racist,...There are so many things that are actually racist, I would set the threshold a little tighter, just to conserve energy.Hey19noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-90830592911709520922012-06-27T23:02:47.758-04:002012-06-27T23:02:47.758-04:00I know someone who took issue with the owners'...I know someone who took issue with the owners' bar called The Ninth Ward when it opened.<br /><br />The Voice wrote about it:<br /><br />"Louisiana transplant and writer Cajun Boy is neither amused nor shy about it. His Twitter feed reads:<br />A New Orleans-themed bar in NYC called Ninth Ward has opened. Maybe I'll open a NYC-themed bar in New Orleans and call it World Trade Center."<br /><br />http://blogs.villagevoice.com/forkintheroad/2010/06/ninth_ward_will.phpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-71936125910593283772012-06-27T22:50:27.720-04:002012-06-27T22:50:27.720-04:00And with all due respect, it sounds to me like you...And with all due respect, it sounds to me like you willfully missed my point. I didn't say anything about wanting a Marley theme-park bar. (I'm a Tosh girl anyway)<br /><br />Look, I haven't been to this place. I'm just telling you how it sounds as it is described ... and how it *sounds* is like "Jamaica, but without all those problematic black people!" i.e., <i>ninety-two</i> percent of the population. Who in the hell associates Jamaica with James Bond? And even worse, thinks of colonialism as something fashionable? <br /><br />I agree in wishing someone actually Jamaican would chime in and tell us both how this sounds.LvVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-7667620803468652552012-06-27T22:15:18.180-04:002012-06-27T22:15:18.180-04:00@LvV
I dont know, that seems like a reach, or a wi...@LvV<br />I dont know, that seems like a reach, or a willful misunderstanding of what they are going for here. There is a lot more to Jamaica than Bob Marley, I really shouldnt speak for Jamaicans, but I would think its refreshing to see a Jamaican place that doesnt just go for the Bob Marley angle.Hey19noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-77867702480416023742012-06-27T20:08:38.622-04:002012-06-27T20:08:38.622-04:00"jamaica in 1962"...oh brother."jamaica in 1962"...oh brother.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-64313581074670465182012-06-27T17:56:04.131-04:002012-06-27T17:56:04.131-04:00Nothing is racist about Jamaican food, obviously. ...Nothing is racist about Jamaican food, obviously. I still miss the ital chickpea curry and rice from Daphne's on 14th (now it's that Bishops & Barons place) ... it's just that when you want to open a joint based on the cuisine of a country that is more than 90% black, but invoke British colonialism and James Bond, and make sure to disassociate yourself from the most famous musician the country has ever produced (who happens to be black), it raises a few flags to me. <br /><br />I hope I am wrong about racism, but at the very least the place sounds incredibly culturally insensitive.LvVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-71404061849615835022012-06-27T16:32:36.340-04:002012-06-27T16:32:36.340-04:00@LvV
I'll bite. Whats racist about Jamaican Cu...@LvV<br />I'll bite. Whats racist about Jamaican Cuisine?Hey19noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-77055674297762498702012-06-27T12:47:19.554-04:002012-06-27T12:47:19.554-04:00Dairy Queen Blizzards are a cool hug on a hot day....Dairy Queen Blizzards are a cool hug on a hot day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-18361023105597686712012-06-27T10:46:39.816-04:002012-06-27T10:46:39.816-04:00What I found even more horrifying, when I went ont...What I found even more horrifying, when I went onto the Grub Street link about this place, was the one about Dairy Queen coming to town. Because we don't have nearly enough ice cream places here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-61848239550571092472012-06-27T10:30:16.836-04:002012-06-27T10:30:16.836-04:00I was there for a party on Saturday. They did a gr...I was there for a party on Saturday. They did a great job on the interior. It's a beautiful front room, lots of wood, requisite tin ceiling, long bar a number of banquets and a pool table. I didn't have much of the food, just fries and the beef patties which were pretty good.<br /><br />BTW, I asked one of the owners what happened to the Chow Mein sign from the old Jade Mountain space that is now Sholbreds and he told me it's on the roof of the building! So if anyone knows of someone that can put that sign to good use they might want to contact the owner of the building.Kurtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-49691094731928278232012-06-27T10:24:09.662-04:002012-06-27T10:24:09.662-04:00Sounds like a cool new spot. Too bad they have to ...Sounds like a cool new spot. Too bad they have to be neighbors with the bozo crowd at 13th Step.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-42329180014143890072012-06-27T09:04:27.907-04:002012-06-27T09:04:27.907-04:00I'm sorry, am I misunderstanding or does this ...I'm sorry, am I misunderstanding or does this "Jamaican" restaurant sound like the most racist shit ever?LvVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-42398240134820723152012-06-27T08:30:56.198-04:002012-06-27T08:30:56.198-04:00I like the Schoolbreds guys, ninth ward isnt great...I like the Schoolbreds guys, ninth ward isnt great, but could be worse, and the descriptions of this place seem ok. There is usually a good crowd at their bars, but I wouldnt call it Pussy Galore.Hey19noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-62691718893599800622012-06-27T08:09:18.003-04:002012-06-27T08:09:18.003-04:00I love Jamaican food. I always wanted to be a &quo...I love Jamaican food. I always wanted to be a "Bond Girl".<br />MelanieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com