tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post5224302728308724847..comments2024-03-28T16:06:42.424-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: The Halloween Dog Parade in Tompkins Square Park this fall has been cancelled Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-53542531790308207742018-08-25T01:08:04.508-04:002018-08-25T01:08:04.508-04:00i suggest you call it a halloween dog park protest...i suggest you call it a halloween dog park protest and talk to Norman Siegel. Just say you are protesting the large amount of money the Parks Department wans to charge for it. Since a protest is a First Amendment protected event they cannot deny a permit or charge you insurance and they are afraid of Norman Siegel so they have to give you the ok. John Penleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14761244034442128309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-17618092123748067912018-08-24T14:49:57.397-04:002018-08-24T14:49:57.397-04:00@1:15, no one is telling anyone what they can cons...@1:15, no one is telling anyone what they can consider family. But no one else is obligated to feel the same, and many people don't. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-91481172374736503952018-08-24T13:50:04.039-04:002018-08-24T13:50:04.039-04:00I agree with the poster above and others who say t...I agree with the poster above and others who say this event has gotten out of hand---the huge crowd and the hoopla are just too much for this small park/community. <br /><br />And assuming that your dog "loves" this event (even knowing that they're territorial by nature and can get agitated and upset because of that very trait) is just foolishness. Your dog loves you so it will often put up with your whims---but there are limits for some dogs. I can personally attest that some dogs HATE being dressed up---and go fucking crazy trying to get out of "clothes" and shit made of cardboard, etc.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-10838637822479065012018-08-24T13:15:58.060-04:002018-08-24T13:15:58.060-04:008:58, it’s not for you to decide what constitutes ...8:58, it’s not for you to decide what constitutes family for the rest of us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-44081477112004094682018-08-24T13:15:29.299-04:002018-08-24T13:15:29.299-04:00@8:49am: "Doggy Santacon" sums it up ver...@8:49am: "Doggy Santacon" sums it up very well!<br /><br />I grew up with dogs: 2 German Shepherd mixes, 1 Jack Russell-ish mix. My extended family had a marvelous Pit Bull/Lab mix who was a marshmallow, and my niece currently has a 20-pound mid-size dog who's a Heinz 57 variety. All of these were from the shelter or saved from the street, and they were/are all WONDERFUL. And NEVER would our family have considered doing anything like this to any of them; both the dogs and my family had more dignity than that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-38051017715054680572018-08-24T08:58:08.983-04:002018-08-24T08:58:08.983-04:00Dogs are wonderful pets and companions. No matter ...Dogs are wonderful pets and companions. No matter how much you love your dog or you believe your dog loves you it is not your child, nephew or niece and you will never be it's parent. Other people have more rights than you dog so stop the aggression to people that rather have a park that is not dedicated to dog owners dressing the dogs up like children for Halloween. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-21732284919946137132018-08-24T08:49:23.798-04:002018-08-24T08:49:23.798-04:00Unless you ARE a dog, you can't speak for all ...Unless you ARE a dog, you can't speak for all dogs and say they're all having a great time at this event, especially as it is today. We see photos of the adorable dogs in costume and hope they're having fun, but if you actually KNOW dogs, then you know that there is a whole lot of anxiety going on in many of their furry little heads. <br /><br />Dogs, in general, do not like crowds, yelling, or confusion, all of which this event has in abundance. And you don't need to be a dog parent yourself to realize this! Although I happen to be a Pomeranian auntie several times over, TYVM, and I can assure you that my pommie niece/nephew would be freaking the hell out if forced to participate in the current iteration of this thing.<br /><br />I swear, half of being a cat person is choosing cats over dogs not because dogs aren't wonderful, but because being a dog parent means regular interaction with selfish <i>humans</i>, the kind who think they can speak for animals.<br /><br />-Ave A cat lady who is starting to think this "parade" has become Doggie Santacon Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-87725581693207218372018-08-24T03:29:44.086-04:002018-08-24T03:29:44.086-04:00Too crowded last year though still fun seeing the ...Too crowded last year though still fun seeing the dogs. Don't see any solution to crowds of that size except closing streets - which I'd be all for, I like closed streets for any non-disaster reason, but am quite sure that will be a minority opinion around this blog and not gonna happen anyway.<br /><br />To whoever was complaining of drunkenness upthread: Are you sure you have the right event? Mobbed? Yes. Boozing, rowdy? No. I think you meant Wigstock.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-8891651718027519292018-08-23T21:27:23.426-04:002018-08-23T21:27:23.426-04:00This event is definitely NOT the same event it was...This event is definitely NOT the same event it was when it started out years ago. The last few years it has turned into a loud, corporate sponsored,crowded mess just like the West Village Halloween Parade, It’s not even about the dogs anymore, its about the fetishistic Cosplay owners dressing up for their Instagram Moments of fleeting fame. It’s a narcissists paradise, which goes along with the sense of superiority and entitlement we see in these comments by the supporters. They are just like the anti-rent stabilization crowd that always says “If you dont like it then you can leave.” No. We are not leaving. We are the East Village. I agree with the Parks Department; either get your act together or go somewhere else that can handle these crowds.Party Pooper Scoopernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-49248023656962093362018-08-23T18:30:57.430-04:002018-08-23T18:30:57.430-04:00@rubygirl, I'm sure the parks department can f...@rubygirl, I'm sure the parks department can find you a space that's more appropriate for 10k+ people. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-63970187410573112612018-08-23T18:24:38.712-04:002018-08-23T18:24:38.712-04:00"Dogs hate the dog parade!!" -- EV Grump..."Dogs hate the dog parade!!" -- EV Grump readers who don't actually own dogs <br /><br />As the owner of a dog who LOVES attention from people and other dogs, I can say with certainty the parade is my dog's favorite day of the year. Just because you're bitter people are having fun in your neighborhood, don't take it on on the pups. Let them have their paradeMrNiceGuynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-53899323773534247982018-08-23T18:15:27.662-04:002018-08-23T18:15:27.662-04:00you're the man now dawgyou're the man now dawgKeyFood4Evahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18150949133728121792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-40030304985621771102018-08-23T16:21:00.886-04:002018-08-23T16:21:00.886-04:00I live here and pay taxes every day just like ever...I live here and pay taxes every day just like everyone else, so why should I have to stay out of the park for that one day, just so entitled dog-owners can stuff their pets into costumes (unnatural!) and make the park off-limits to those of us who want to just enjoy a peaceful walk in the park on a weekend? An event that draws 10,000 people is not a "neighborhood event".<br /><br />This is getting like the Greenwich Village Halloween parade, which USED TO BE a neighborhood event (on 10th St., where I stood & watched it in awe nearly 40 years ago) but now it's become this "thing" that closes large swaths of 6th Avenue and is televised.<br /><br />I want my neighborhood to be a neighborhood - and that means the dog owners don't get to throw me out of the park for the day any more than drug dealers are entitled to throw me out of the park for the day. It's my park and my weekend, too!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-51551532190115279442018-08-23T15:56:10.149-04:002018-08-23T15:56:10.149-04:00"Stay out of the park for one day if it bothe..."Stay out of the park for one day if it bothers you so much" You can look at things in a microscope or pull you head up and see what the dog parade as yet another local, fun and cool event which got gobbled up by corporate sponsors, hoards of tourists and a once pleasant event becomes impossible for locals to enjoy. TSP becomes a mini Times Sq on that day and when is the last time anyone reading this wanted to hang out there? <br /><br />Being critical and calling crap out is not being "negative" it's about having an awareness of the takeover of our public spaces by those looking to profit from our community's beautiful park and creative energy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-23199078723444606512018-08-23T15:37:33.927-04:002018-08-23T15:37:33.927-04:00Speaking only of what the parade has become, not w...Speaking only of what the parade has become, not when it was a much smaller and more manageable event: I find the sidewalks surrounding TSP extremely anxiety-producing on parade day, so I can't even imagine how unpleasant it must be for so many of the puppers. It makes me mad just to think about how much stress these fool-ass attendees are causing their animals. I mean why don't they just invite a couple hundred mailmen to set off some fireworks while they are at it.<br /><br />-Ave A cat lady who does not get peopleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-74926677400470702962018-08-23T15:14:46.480-04:002018-08-23T15:14:46.480-04:00Agreed MrNiceGuy
Just contributed as well.
Stay ou...Agreed MrNiceGuy<br />Just contributed as well.<br />Stay out of the park for one day if it bothers you so much. There's a world beyond the nabe. Remove the stick and go explore!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-13828754685292339212018-08-23T15:07:53.580-04:002018-08-23T15:07:53.580-04:00PS. If you read the article you would see we have ...PS. If you read the article you would see we have no conservancy. And when we did, no one on the conservancy was salaried. Stop being so grouchy and allow us thisnine day to raise money that benefits our park without your negativity brubygirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250829726546641126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-40104476523526135132018-08-23T15:04:31.787-04:002018-08-23T15:04:31.787-04:00The funds raised from thisnevrnt go directly into...The funds raised from thisnevrnt go directly into the Parks Department fund for the Tompkins Square Dog Run for its upkeep and future (and past) renovations. No one makes any money from this. Every penny but formthe cost of the staging and prizes goes into this fund. Do you think you know what you’re talking about but in reality you don’t know anything. rubygirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250829726546641126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-11662720875264462752018-08-23T14:53:12.477-04:002018-08-23T14:53:12.477-04:00There has never been a problem with people drinkin...There has never been a problem with people drinking. That’s just bs. This is an event that takes up 4-5 hours once a year and supports our park. The money raised doesn’t go into anyone’s pocket. It goes directly into the park’s fund for our dog run. Classically dog owners are not andrunken element. I think you meant SantaCon. rubygirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250829726546641126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-37103587934586742472018-08-23T14:51:01.147-04:002018-08-23T14:51:01.147-04:00Giovanni doesn’t want the past back. He wants gent...Giovanni doesn’t want the past back. He wants gentrification because he thinks rich people don’t have dogs that need a dog run. rubygirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250829726546641126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-57570295685527261092018-08-23T14:49:30.663-04:002018-08-23T14:49:30.663-04:00I communicated directly with the Parks people in c...I communicated directly with the Parks people in charge of the clean up and they were not stressed at all. They said this was the easiest event they clean up after, and the volunteers from the dog run also stayed behind to help in the effort. The park was not left in disarray. I actually went back later in the evening and did a walk through to check the clean up. The park was cleaner than it usually is. That number has been an ongoing number for several years and there have not been any incidents that required police attention, though a police presence is always required. The lead officer loves us and is always very helpful. Comparing us to a drunken rowdy element whose participants regulsrlynthrow up in doorways is, at best, disingenuous, when we raise money for our dog run’s upkeep which is necessary and expensive. It also benefits the park in general by keeping the dog run safe and clean. <br />rubygirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17250829726546641126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-53809754651230242772018-08-23T14:42:36.330-04:002018-08-23T14:42:36.330-04:00This is very sad news and a loss for the neighborh...This is very sad news and a loss for the neighborhood. Whether the old grumps on this blog like it or not, the Dog Parade is one of the defining annual events for Tompkins Square Park and a unique tradition that is beloved by NYC and the rest of the country (it's on the national news every year). <br /><br />The parade is incredibly easy to navigate around -- simply don't go to the park that day. I am happy to be slightly inconvenienced for one Saturday a year if it means bringing happiness to so many people... not to mention the dogs. Contrary to the beliefs of non-dog-owning-EV Grumps, the dogs love the parade. Dogs love being around other dogs, plain and simple. <br /><br />I'm going to contribute to the Go Fund Me page. This parade has been around for 28 years and is a neighborhood tradition. I hope I'm there for the 50th anniversary.MrNiceGuynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-34323802852359456862018-08-23T14:11:05.285-04:002018-08-23T14:11:05.285-04:00@Neighbor. Spoiler alert: this blog is called EV G...@Neighbor. Spoiler alert: this blog is called EV Grieve for a reason. We miss the old East Village because much of what is replacing it is with completely unaffordable or a total shitshow. In the “good old days” we had art and music and artists and a stronger sense of community. Now we have Dog Parades and SantaCons and Fascistic Park Conservancies in Washington Square that don't improve the lives of anyone except for bars, big real estate, and corporate sponsors. The Dog Parade used to be a nice little event, then it got corporate sponsors. Now its so overcrowded with people you can barely even see the dogs, and they leave behind so much trash its an insult to everyone who actually lives here. Move this to East River Park or somewhere else that can handle the event without so much disruption, or just cancel it since the organizers can’t seem to handle it properly anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-54018191274728178502018-08-23T13:49:08.620-04:002018-08-23T13:49:08.620-04:00@1>02pm: Totally agree with your comment.@1>02pm: Totally agree with your comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-27028238792826128952018-08-23T13:41:00.240-04:002018-08-23T13:41:00.240-04:00Doubt that any dogs will be disappointed this news...Doubt that any dogs will be disappointed this news.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com