tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post6892959469500348145..comments2024-03-28T03:47:41.338-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: Community Board 3 committees to discuss the longterm future of outdoor dining Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger86125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-58052367495943799362021-07-17T15:36:07.384-04:002021-07-17T15:36:07.384-04:00Go live in Europe if you love it so much. I'll...Go live in Europe if you love it so much. I'll take a quieter, cleaner NYC, with space for automobiles, any day.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00361071708063887506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-42478587910921214842021-07-15T19:28:03.645-04:002021-07-15T19:28:03.645-04:00I want to see life in this neighborhood and the ci...I want to see life in this neighborhood and the city. Outdoor dining should be here to stay forever. Neighborhood has been revitalized because of it and feels like Paris in some way. These no fun cry babies need to deal with it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-6587528953130263922021-07-15T00:17:57.804-04:002021-07-15T00:17:57.804-04:00While I definitely think there needs to be stricte...While I definitely think there needs to be stricter regulations for the dining sheds in order to better coexist with the neighbors, we should be giving restaurants at least one more year of the extra space. Yes the pandemic regulations have lifted, but many of these establishments are still paying off back rent from the past year, both for the months they had to close (some places have an entire year of back rent to pay off, with landlords that have given no rent relief), and because even establishments that were open, were making a fraction of their normal revenue due to reduced capacity restrictions and a reduced customer base. And while the regulations have now been lifted, many establishments are open with reduced hours because they are short staffed. If we want to continue to keep the small businesses that make this city special, open, we need to continue to allow them the opportunity to have the extra capacity. They have an entire year's worth of catching up to do, which many can only accomplish with the extra seating ability.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-31197301916770398902021-07-14T21:18:23.147-04:002021-07-14T21:18:23.147-04:00Bottom line: this is a massive transfer of public ...Bottom line: this is a massive transfer of public wealth/space to the private sector.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-46959292270153524712021-07-14T18:29:09.567-04:002021-07-14T18:29:09.567-04:00Rats have always been around, I don't see the ...Rats have always been around, I don't see the structures adding much more. Personally I'm a big fan of the new outdoor dining culture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-70315494164292988262021-07-14T16:45:48.481-04:002021-07-14T16:45:48.481-04:00All those worried about rats should be advocating ...All those worried about rats should be advocating for dumpsters. I have not noticed any increase in rats at all; to me the rat activity appears the same as before the pandemic. However, NYC needs dumpsters like any other civilized place. Throwing the bags on the ground has always been a recipe for rats. Calling for the removal of sheds without calling for installation of dumpsters is a bad faith criticism.<br /><br />With regard to the sheds, I prefer them to the high speed streets we had before the pandemic. Cars, exhaust, noise, and grit are vastly more unpleasant than some cafe society. It appears to me that most of these critics are more angry about seeing other people having a good time than anything else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-14086884368007557162021-07-14T13:16:34.083-04:002021-07-14T13:16:34.083-04:00July 13th 10:18pm - 10:37pm HAS to be the same per...July 13th 10:18pm - 10:37pm HAS to be the same person and probably a lobbyist for Streetsblog. Keep you one sided, tone deaf opinions on that site. Please. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-73668550669084970902021-07-14T12:31:15.013-04:002021-07-14T12:31:15.013-04:00More streets need to be blocked off on the weekend...More streets need to be blocked off on the weekends, imho. Need to refocus the city from car culture to pedestrian culture. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-90765247107357286052021-07-14T11:07:54.926-04:002021-07-14T11:07:54.926-04:00It’s the side of the road, relax. It’s already inc...It’s the side of the road, relax. It’s already incredibly limited because nyc doesn’t have much for municipal lots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-56374067469841432212021-07-14T11:01:55.443-04:002021-07-14T11:01:55.443-04:00No but a parking space is shared and Public, and t...No but a parking space is shared and Public, and they matter for a lot of businesses and residents and normal life. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-2092303046340532232021-07-14T10:59:20.247-04:002021-07-14T10:59:20.247-04:00Lol what? Cars don’t own the spots, they are publi...Lol what? Cars don’t own the spots, they are public. People need somewhere to park. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-61377533155151508942021-07-14T09:28:33.595-04:002021-07-14T09:28:33.595-04:00Take a wrecking ball to these rat ranches, pronto!...Take a wrecking ball to these rat ranches, pronto! All the reasons y’all have said. And a wrecking ball to the feckless Carlina Rivera as well.Peachy McPeachfacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-34399934106457664012021-07-14T09:16:24.264-04:002021-07-14T09:16:24.264-04:00@8:42am: Well maybe it is done well on YOUR block,...@8:42am: Well maybe it is done well on YOUR block, but it sure as hell isn't being done well in most places.<br /><br />Maybe landlords can tout apartments for rent by saying "free adult rat with every lease!"<br /><br />I don't think people have the slightest clue how much damage rats can do to infrastructure. If you think it's gross to SEE a rat on the sidewalk, wait until you have thousands of them chewing on electrical wiring underground along with Spectrum, FIOS, etc. cables & wiring. Oh, how much fun if the internet goes down for a whole area b/c of rat damage! And how long d'you imagine it'll take an entity like our local cable companies to find & fix the damage? And do you imagine you won't pay for that with higher rates?<br /><br />People who "love" outdoor dining should be prepared to "love" all kinds of power problems, too. Fun times in "Fun City"!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-49408898350349204562021-07-14T08:42:43.037-04:002021-07-14T08:42:43.037-04:00I agree that some maybe many of these structures n...I agree that some maybe many of these structures need to be tightened up, and many have taken up a unfair amount of space, but with a clean up of the rules and more responsibility and accountability there is no reason this can't be a safe and permanent addition to the neighborhood. <br />I have a car in the east village and parking is as hard as it was before pandemic. I also live above one of these and my bar neighbor has been very respectful of the time, all done and quiet by 11:30. The owner is also diligent in keeping the street clean and tidy. It's in his interest to keep the rats away, trash cans sealed tight and bags only out when being picked up.<br />We can do this well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-75976313381985231672021-07-14T08:37:03.109-04:002021-07-14T08:37:03.109-04:00I was at the meeting last night and the crowd rese...I was at the meeting last night and the crowd resembled a pot boiling on a stove, lid rattling and ready to blow at any moment. Finally we got to "speak our truth". People were for the most part angry that the city government had been plotting this for some time and the impression was that unless something drastic happening this will be a done deal. Our neighbors for the most part were having not any of it. Passionate 60 second speeches relayed the how the open street restaurants and bars have destroy the quality of life for anyone living next to them. The rate populations explosion due to food waste left in roads nightly, the illegal activity which occurs in street sheds late at night. The community board seemed be symbiotic with those that attended the meeting. And yes the vile Carlina Rivera got a good deserving booooo. This fight has just begun, we all need to speak up and say it loud. noble neolanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15721532867336440260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-69585299401264459972021-07-14T00:06:58.676-04:002021-07-14T00:06:58.676-04:00I won't be surprised at all if we discover tha...I won't be surprised at all if we discover that the "fix" was already in - and that no number of people protesting at CB3 meetings will change anything. I watched part of the meeting online Tuesday night, and I was happy to hear Rivera roundly booed. (But she still somehow got voted in again.)<br /><br />The basic insanity is this: Why the fuck would the TRANSPORTATION DEPT. be involved in licensing, regulating or determining how RESTAURANTS operate?<br /><br />Might as well let the Health & Hospitals Corporation run all the ordinary DOT stuff, since the DOT will be running restaurant businesses in NYC. Or perhaps the NYPD can be required to patch potholes. Or maybe the DOB can take over the bridges and tunnels, which can be re-defined as "buildings".<br /><br />Or maybe someone should be honest and just say it: the SLA and Cuomo are now in charge of all restaurant and bar-related EVERYTHING in NYC, b/c (a) Cuomo needs the tax income, and (b) Cuomo thinks he's god-emperor of NY.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-12924073451404134582021-07-13T23:05:39.527-04:002021-07-13T23:05:39.527-04:00I hope outdoor dining is here to stay forever and ...I hope outdoor dining is here to stay forever and closing some streets to car traffic is a great idea. This neighborhood is for the people. Prople from anywhere. Compromise would be to close the sheds at midnight and if you want to drink until 4am do it indoors. And the “bro” crowd is not the only one that drinks in the village it’s a destination for all kinds of people. <br />Cars is not a right but a privilege si deal with it. This neighborhood has been like a flower in bloom with allowance of outdoor dining in my opinion and opinion of many I talked to. And no outdoor dining is not full of drunk “bros” 99 percent of the time it’s enjoyed by normal people Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-53927917385358878832021-07-13T23:00:38.056-04:002021-07-13T23:00:38.056-04:00I didn't make it to Tuesday's meeting, alt...I didn't make it to Tuesday's meeting, although I dragged myself down to 1 Centre Street last night; at that meeting, people were treating it as a done deal and were pretty much finessing the logistics of how the Open Streets program was going to play out in the long term. <br /><br />I didn't sign up for this; I hate eating outdoors—always have—and these plywood shacks are kinda like treehouses but on the ground. "Let's pretend we're going out to dinner." Bottom line: this city isn't zoned for these little shacks taking up parking spaces; I don't own a car, but I don't need to see diners spilling out onto every street everywhere I go.<br /><br />When this program started, I accepted it only because I thought there would be an end to it at some point; someone has to come up with a better idea.Scuba Divahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10326884503725331349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-57069454847521518242021-07-13T22:37:09.104-04:002021-07-13T22:37:09.104-04:00Sure some vehicles are needed but packing our limi...Sure some vehicles are needed but packing our limited outdoor space with essentially a giant parking lot is madness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-58758298712153804162021-07-13T22:34:01.295-04:002021-07-13T22:34:01.295-04:00And no land grab back for free car storage! Let’s ...And no land grab back for free car storage! Let’s use our community space to be enjoyed AS SPACE, to stroll, to sit, to grow greenery—all possible if we weren’t so focused on cars and commerce. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-38282259106443949762021-07-13T22:30:30.790-04:002021-07-13T22:30:30.790-04:00There is also zero reason to give up such vast pub...There is also zero reason to give up such vast public space for free car storage. So let’s use so much common space not for car storage or for business but for neighborhood folks to enjoy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-11926642588573203192021-07-13T22:27:44.437-04:002021-07-13T22:27:44.437-04:00Cars exist but only a small portion of the communi...Cars exist but only a small portion of the community owns them, and space should be distributed for betterment of whole community not car-owning few.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-64027079417780101422021-07-13T22:18:33.823-04:002021-07-13T22:18:33.823-04:00No, no, no- why should you get free rent when ever...No, no, no- why should you get free rent when everyone else has to pay- especially when you bar/restaurant causes quality of life issues for neighbors? Pay your damn rent like everybody else!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-35337410255174818322021-07-13T20:58:38.418-04:002021-07-13T20:58:38.418-04:00Cars will always be needed. People that own them ...Cars will always be needed. People that own them do not take a fun Sunday drive for the hell of it. They need it to go to their jobs that public transportation will not go to. With that said, I won a car and park in a garage. I'm fine with that. I'm also fine with adding bike lanes as I do bike. Saying you want to get rid of cars entirely is ridiculous. We need more garages and at least spaces where people can drop off the elderly, or packages, or have people park that do necessarily repairs to your building. And yes, the sheds need to go.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-77609986666272101902021-07-13T20:48:24.436-04:002021-07-13T20:48:24.436-04:00If you’ve ever wanted an example of what’s smother...If you’ve ever wanted an example of what’s smothering the spirit of our dear city, I’m afraid you’d have to look no further than the commentariat on display here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com