tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post7154701466434574903..comments2024-03-29T10:34:24.199-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: A rally for rezoning protections along Broadway and University PlaceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-30976837965215513852017-04-22T14:33:20.917-04:002017-04-22T14:33:20.917-04:00Tech hub will be smack between two high rise NYU d...Tech hub will be smack between two high rise NYU dorms built since 2000 and backed up against what I believe is the only new-build affordable housing in the neighborhood constructed same period on 13th Street. NYT piece below sheds some interesting light. To be clear I think tech hub in the PC Richards space is a welcome development that could attract new retail to neighborhood vacant spaces (if only one could be a bookstore!) BUT proliferation of new condos on University needs to be checked. I wish more attention had been paid when Duane Reade was allowed to expand their 10thStreet/Third Avenue space into adjacent spaces but they are at the base of a 60-year-old co-op so I'm not sure any checks would have been possible. Seems also like change is coming to the east side of Broadway from 8th Street down to 4th Street...let's have some details on that area.<br />http://www.nytimes.com/2000/08/13/realestate/on-14th-street-less-grit-more-glamour.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-4237388579670262752017-04-22T14:18:10.197-04:002017-04-22T14:18:10.197-04:00@anon 5:06
I find it curious that you point out d...@anon 5:06<br /><br />I find it curious that you point out dos toros, which has been in existence for maybe five years, as one of your beloved small fast food joints. It's not even on 14th street. I don't get your point. All "change" is good, and can't be altered or augmented at all? There's a difference between organic gentrification and hypergentrification, which is subsidized by the government, and involves things like alterations to zoning and using tax funds to build facilities for already thriving industries. I guess you don't believe in democracy? The people should have no say in their neighborhood, only real estate developers? I simply don't understand your argument. Might was well put a highway through Washington square park, right? Change! I guess Jane Jacobs was a sinner and Robert Moses was a saint in your world. We are arguing about a very specific proposal, pointing out specific aspects of it which are out of step with the neighborhood, and your argument is just some generic point about "change". Please explain why locating this eyesore where it is proposed is a good thing.JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15560590260333131225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-72043655908569667742017-04-22T09:08:57.594-04:002017-04-22T09:08:57.594-04:00NYC is becoming homogenized neighborhood by neighb...NYC is becoming homogenized neighborhood by neighborhood. High income, low diversity. Not good for any city. The plan for a tech strip is ill conceived and is short sited. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-27622049244415105352017-04-21T20:54:08.410-04:002017-04-21T20:54:08.410-04:00fast food establishments all over the east and wes...fast food establishments all over the east and west village cater to students, tourists, and drunksblue glassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-67840732329973273622017-04-21T19:43:42.799-04:002017-04-21T19:43:42.799-04:00The building is like welfare for technies -- and e...The building is like welfare for technies -- and explains why it is not in DeBlasio's backyard. <br /><br />But Red Hook makes better sense, espcially now with DeBlasio's $2.50 ferry and a trolley line, coming soon. (Technies love ferries and trolleys.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-38181827635315504512017-04-21T17:06:35.972-04:002017-04-21T17:06:35.972-04:00JB @1:51: I've noticed on EV Grieve that whene...JB @1:51: I've noticed on EV Grieve that whenever someone wants to attack someone's position the fall back is always "you aren't here long enough to know anything." Well, dear heart, I have been in the EV for 40+ years. The little strip of small food places are small chains, Dos Toros, for example. I am just tired of everyone believing that if we stop change--you supply whatever you think change means--that somehow rents will go down to what they once were. They are not. Affordable housing is a myth. There is no such thing in New York City anymore (again my definition of affordable housing is one week's salary for rent/maintenance). What do you think the East Village should be a hub for? What small businesses are you going to support? More bagel shops, more coffee shops? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-15130693064054719302017-04-21T16:37:43.231-04:002017-04-21T16:37:43.231-04:00Paddlers on the strip? Sounds like someone's a...Paddlers on the strip? Sounds like someone's a little over-heated.<br /><br />It's true the sidewalk is too crowded. We should remove *all* the so-called "pedestrians" (who are just a bunch of scummy creeps without cars), and put in another lane of traffic. <br /><br />If we can't be like a suburban office park, what kind of city are we?DrGeckohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11480708164024012673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-51186886942949069962017-04-21T16:26:55.108-04:002017-04-21T16:26:55.108-04:00I'm all for the jobs creation the hub may gene...I'm all for the jobs creation the hub may generate. The upscale housing though along University and Broadway is another story. This is not for workers, just the 1%. I'd like to see some zoning protections in these areas before its too late. The condo coming to Bowlmor will be a pricy beast. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-47988441141929284132017-04-21T16:09:01.933-04:002017-04-21T16:09:01.933-04:00The main retail component of this space will be a ...The main retail component of this space will be a food court, the developer and EDC compared it to smorgasburg, little stalls with supposedly unique items. So EDC and the developers have no interest in contributing to the local economy and supporting existing local businesses who are struggling. Instead the want to create an insular community of techies. This whole concept is bad for the community and the positive components of it, like the training center will be far outweighed by the negative so . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-68367548289200453992017-04-21T16:03:07.096-04:002017-04-21T16:03:07.096-04:00Tech companies are absolutely, positively fucking ...Tech companies are absolutely, positively fucking worthless flavor of the month, planned obsolesence, what new useless gadget can I buy/app can I download this season garbage. These nerds drive up rents and have no regard or care for what's around them. They literally add nothing to the city save more dollars onto rent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-16008207586431363352017-04-21T15:46:19.637-04:002017-04-21T15:46:19.637-04:00Getting the paddlers off the south-side strip of 1...Getting the paddlers off the south-side strip of 14th between Broadway and University would be a major improvement and enhance pedestrian traffic--street is always choked. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-85584602495278936432017-04-21T14:43:32.989-04:002017-04-21T14:43:32.989-04:00Is there a reason this "tech hub" can...Is there a reason this "tech hub" can't be built near City Hall, on or near where J&R used to be? All the advantages of being near the seat of city government AND the financial wizards who are funding tech! And none of the unnecessary destruction of our area!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-38906061284990525262017-04-21T14:33:17.397-04:002017-04-21T14:33:17.397-04:00Notice how the East Village is a sitting duck for ...Notice how the East Village is a sitting duck for this "tech hub" crap? Why??? Why don't they put a "tech hub" on Rivington Street, or South St. Seaport, or Bushwick?<br /><br />This neighborhood is already rotten with entitled techies who have more money than common sense or respect for others.<br /><br />Send the brilliant minds somewhere else; maybe they can "elevate" another neighborhood that is more in need of snotty frat bros than we are. I believe we are over-supplied with those in the East Village already.<br /><br />And what does anyone think more overpaid tech-heads will do to the pressures on rents here? Drive them up, up, up. NYC needs to find a place that needs "gentrifying" and put the tech heads and their glossy offices THERE. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-52407965494550613152017-04-21T13:51:01.326-04:002017-04-21T13:51:01.326-04:00@anon 12:21
You think a lot of fast food joints a...@anon 12:21<br /><br />You think a lot of fast food joints are a great addition to the neighborhood and bring jobs? You sound like someone who has lived in the city for maybe 6 months. Do you think those storefronts were vacant for 300 years before the combined Taco Bell/Pizza Hut moved in? The one thing that is not needed in manhattan is any incentive for businesses to move in; there is already ludicrous demand for retail storefronts and office space. This isn't Peoria. Also, why are you even posting if the little boy with his finger in the dyke isn't going to stop anything? Sounds more like you've imbibed from the fountainhead too much and are worried the little people are going to prevent neoliberal subsidization of private business by city coffers in buildings totally out of character with the rest of the neighborhood. You want our tax dollars to pay for a tech hub? Then you can keep the building a reasonable height. JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15560590260333131225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-51562834500009578532017-04-21T13:31:18.433-04:002017-04-21T13:31:18.433-04:00Bravo 12:21! Bravo.Bravo 12:21! Bravo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-80128602605386269262017-04-21T12:21:35.864-04:002017-04-21T12:21:35.864-04:00I hope that the negative views being put forward b...I hope that the negative views being put forward by "preservationists" may well be to assert a bargaining chip in the design and amenities of buildings that will be converted or new buildings. There is a feeling that the "character" of this part of the border area "EV /Greenwich Village" is being compromised. Many of these same people were virulently opposed to the changes in the Union Square area a decade or more ago. A city is a living organism and the efforts of the little boy with his finger in the dike won't significantly the development. How much did well meaning people change the NYU master plan? Very little. The developments being opposed are not part of a master plan, but rather a series of plans (co-ops on University Place between 12th and 13th Streets). And, as always there is the nostalgia that if only we can prevent these developments we will somehow save the EV for "affordable housing." Nothing could be further from the truth--affordable house (whatever that really means) will never return to what is ingrained in people's memories (1 week's salary for rent or maintenance). But keep on being snide about 51 Astor Place, keep on being snide about young people coming into jobs in this neighborhood. It won't change a thing. This morning I walked along Fourth Avenue and from 12th Street to 14th Street, on both sides of the avenue, I was struck by the number of "fast" or convenient food places. The sheer number must mean that the businesses along Union Square and on the side streets are bringing people into the neighborhood--and--that means jobs which is good for everyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-3927971616812962362017-04-21T11:17:06.270-04:002017-04-21T11:17:06.270-04:00What specifically is being protested? Did deblasi...What specifically is being protested? Did deblasio change zoning for the area or is he planning to? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-86408661277182655252017-04-21T11:03:21.590-04:002017-04-21T11:03:21.590-04:00If you think the housing situation in the East Vil...If you think the housing situation in the East Village is bad now, wait until hundreds or even thousands of high-paid tech people are working in the area and want housing convenient to work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-9640980029665066662017-04-21T10:40:01.562-04:002017-04-21T10:40:01.562-04:00"Let the free market work "
Oh yes, the..."Let the free market work "<br /><br />Oh yes, the 421-A tax exemption program is SO free market.<br /><br />REBNY troll alert here, nothing to see, move along. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-88456891585356630752017-04-21T09:53:53.029-04:002017-04-21T09:53:53.029-04:00Tell Mayor DeBlasio? Seriously. He is the worst ...Tell Mayor DeBlasio? Seriously. He is the worst one of all. Better to talk to the Attorney General and start an investigation on who really wants to remove the height restrictions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-11040233235792844222017-04-21T09:36:45.547-04:002017-04-21T09:36:45.547-04:00I'm divided about this. I don't want down...I'm divided about this. I don't want downtown (other than FiDi) turning into midtown, but tech companies bring good jobs and NY does have to compete with the West Coast. For some reason, tech companies are quirky and don't prefer typical business districts (i.e., midtown and fidi) like financials and corporates. It would be good for the city and a lot of people, even if not ideal for the area. Sometimes you just have to tell NIMBYs to F Off. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-56416134819405973612017-04-21T09:29:57.586-04:002017-04-21T09:29:57.586-04:00Huh? The following have nothing to do with the Fr...Huh? The following have nothing to do with the Free Market:<br /><br /> (1) Zoning<br /> (2) A publicly subsidized (or publicly funded) Tech Hub<br /> (3) ULURP (which deals with city land)<br /><br />Rosie Mendez is right (although whether she is effectual is another matter): A Tech Hub would be good, but we don't need another Death Star. <br /><br />As for unreasoning worship of the Free Market, I commend to your attention a Wall Street Journal headline from few years ago: <br /><br /> If the free market can't solve it, maybe it's not a problemDrGeckohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11480708164024012673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-76383195454490371432017-04-21T09:10:23.923-04:002017-04-21T09:10:23.923-04:00anonymous
i guess everyone is your name because e...anonymous<br /><br />i guess everyone is your name because everyone does not want the hubblue glassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-30010554452852907652017-04-21T08:41:20.364-04:002017-04-21T08:41:20.364-04:00Looks like the city is well on its way to become t...Looks like the city is well on its way to become the new Atlanta.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02607837705160530638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-73799200542507670312017-04-21T08:01:20.109-04:002017-04-21T08:01:20.109-04:00Everyone in the neighborhood with a brain wants th...Everyone in the neighborhood with a brain wants this Tech Hub. Have no idea why anyone would oppose this. Let the free market work and stop fighting against development!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com