tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post8917947066421590041..comments2024-03-29T09:08:56.746-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: A letter from a 21-year-old NYU student: 'We are not all the same'Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-12493845142712907692014-08-05T14:40:31.257-04:002014-08-05T14:40:31.257-04:00Anyone who supports these landlords in their greed...Anyone who supports these landlords in their greed is complicit in making everyone else subject to the same abuse. If you pay $3,000 a mmonth for bullshit, you are hurting your community, no way around it. I hate all this fake talk of tolerance, as if we should tolerate having our communities destroyed so rich kids can have a party. Yeah what a blow hard I am, I should just shut up and take it right? Get real!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-36392320468920896262014-08-04T16:32:25.215-04:002014-08-04T16:32:25.215-04:00Whatever it is that plagues current EV inhabitants...Whatever it is that plagues current EV inhabitants, kids in their 20s are, if not directly blamed, then heavily accused of having the bad values that make said "current plague" possible. I moved into the EV in 1980 and life was nothing but a litany of how awful people "my age" were, primarily because we were not "their age," meaning core (as opposed to 'late') boomers. As such, whoever we were, and no one really cared specifically, we must have lacked key '60s values and would, by our mere presence, destroy the "free vibes" of the junkie crack den that was the nabe. We loved it! we loved the dumps we shared (4 to a lease)! They were the ones buying up real estate. There's more than a hint of this eternal prejudice in Olivia's situation and among commenters. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-26170605263936880552014-08-04T14:06:49.252-04:002014-08-04T14:06:49.252-04:00Olivia sounds like a lovely person, but that does ...Olivia sounds like a lovely person, but that does not change the impact that thousands (yes thousands) of young white people have had and continue to have on this once racially diverse mostly low income neighborhood. I was in Duane Reade yesterday it looked like an abercromie and fitch ad in there! Landlords know that you can pay more and that means your presence will cause long term tenants to be harassed, through no fault of your own but it's just the truth. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-89530688728655944772014-08-03T15:33:47.801-04:002014-08-03T15:33:47.801-04:00Agreed. I moved here at 18 in 1995 to attend NYU, ...Agreed. I moved here at 18 in 1995 to attend NYU, never lived above 15th st, and I've been living in a rent-stabilized place near TSP since '98 (I guess because I couldn't help the fact that I grew up outside Chicago and not in NYC, and that I was born after 1970, I feel the need to set forth some cred here, heh). Back then, Sexton was the dean of the law school, and his reputation as a grade-A dickwad preceded him even then. NYU knows not to even think about calling me and asking me for money.shanaelysehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15828841389960183094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-84524083076032127222014-08-01T16:42:17.286-04:002014-08-01T16:42:17.286-04:00Walter makes a good point. How many people know wh...Walter makes a good point. How many people know who their city council member is or what they are up to? Or what the community boards are up to? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-15589035841981959722014-08-01T14:26:25.686-04:002014-08-01T14:26:25.686-04:00Hey Olivia -- I'm with you. The NYU student ne...Hey Olivia -- I'm with you. The NYU student neighbors in my building -- and there've been many over the years -- have all been friendly, interested, genuinely charming and never showed a sense of entitlement despite their privilege. I'm about to visit a former NYU neighbor from a few years back to check out his new neighborhood in the Heights (hoping it'll include a dinner -- his cooking next door was irresistible). <br /><br />My guess is that many of the barflies are not local here and not NYU students at all. It's true that NYU students played a big role in erasing the old neighborhood by speeding up the rate of rent increases, but that's history and that's not about the student as person. <br /><br />Just want to give voice to those of us old folks who don't hate NYU students. The yuppies-with-entitlement have not been students, in my experience.robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07464179798705084025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-73633341466169602382014-08-01T14:15:12.274-04:002014-08-01T14:15:12.274-04:00And what does she even do, really? Homeless outrea...And what does she even do, really? Homeless outreach? Volunteer at Cooper Square Committee? Advocate for the elderly? Don't get me wrong--lots of us don't do any of that stuff either! But we also don't write whiny letters demanding that people like us for being NYU students who miraculously aren't assholes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-32908032722825923882014-08-01T13:41:38.775-04:002014-08-01T13:41:38.775-04:00Unfortunately, Olivia is probably just part of may...Unfortunately, Olivia is probably just part of maybe 5% of these type of kids (newly grad obnoxious yuppie and frat types) who are behaving and actually do care about the hood. 95% of them are still annoying as fck. <br /><br />Also, Olivia's letter come off as "look at me I'm a nice person!!!! I do this and that!!!!". So yeah, not really impressed. Joaquinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-36071292093044883382014-08-01T12:48:06.349-04:002014-08-01T12:48:06.349-04:00@11:37 Because if we offer any kind of constructiv...@11:37 Because if we offer any kind of constructive criticism at all, we'll all be labeled "haters" and SMDPSHT would just push to have her sainted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-13226589810002849152014-08-01T11:37:29.579-04:002014-08-01T11:37:29.579-04:00Real talk: I don't get why everyone is falling...Real talk: I don't get why everyone is falling all over themselves to congratulate Olivia for being a decent citizen. I find her letter a little special-snowflake. Like "Yes, my parents pay over 50K a year to send me to this fancy school, but I'm really chill, so please pat my back for not being an asshole."<br /><br />She's clearly NOT an asshole, to be clear, but I don't hand out cookies for low-level stuff like not being a vomitor or litterbug or frat bro. That's ... like, what you are supposed to do at base level as a human being. And I'm kind of surprised at all the people rushing to over-congratulate Olivia for being a normal person.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-23872838713653007092014-08-01T10:43:05.486-04:002014-08-01T10:43:05.486-04:00I applaud SMDPSHT for standing up for the privileg...I applaud SMDPSHT for standing up for the privileged and persecuted NYU students in NYC! I look forward to his Million Student March down the Bowery to, like, wherever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-52212432429766652652014-08-01T10:24:26.559-04:002014-08-01T10:24:26.559-04:00oh come on, Olivia was not put into any position. ...oh come on, Olivia was not put into any position. She stepped up and took this on all by herself. That's just ridiculous... "she was put into that position..." You clearly give you neighbors too much credit.bowboynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-89548898837494370632014-08-01T07:22:19.474-04:002014-08-01T07:22:19.474-04:00Yes, Olivia's letter is "heartfelt"....Yes, Olivia's letter is "heartfelt". The issue is that she's young and earnest, and thinks she needs to defend herself against the scurrilous claims being made here every day. She was put into that position by those here who always complain. This isn't about me, it's about the complainers.shmnychttp://quilas.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-76471154521790425402014-07-31T22:43:54.365-04:002014-07-31T22:43:54.365-04:00Most New Yorkers have NOTHING to complain about. D...Most New Yorkers have NOTHING to complain about. Do you know why? Because those supposedly politically savvy citizens elected to vote for 20 years of Republican mayoralty. We even let this SCUMBAG Bloomberg rescind local election laws to run for a third term. Now we're facing the consequences. In other words, the chickens have come home to roost. This is what happens when people don't pay attention. Elections have consequences. Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06416518509228779720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-91120894157952575282014-07-31T21:18:12.090-04:002014-07-31T21:18:12.090-04:00Olivia you're a nice girl. Wish more were like...Olivia you're a nice girl. Wish more were like you. The market rate renters in my building rarely make eye contact, and the few times they actually speak to me I am usually caught off-guard. Sorry you're only here for 2 years. I moved in just before the start of my senior year in college and never moved away. Which is how a community becomes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-70192722617761510642014-07-31T21:11:02.736-04:002014-07-31T21:11:02.736-04:00Good for you Olivia!! I've been here for 8 ye...Good for you Olivia!! I've been here for 8 years but assume I'm kind of seen as part of the problem (I look yuppie-ish, what can I say) but I love the energy of the neighborhood and the characters that are here. Sometimes I feel like the true east villagers that are always griping on this page are starting to sound like a bunch of grumpy old farts!! Great post and great reminder for all of us not to stereotype any group for the actions of a few!!A on 7thnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-4549709609717861252014-07-31T20:36:02.797-04:002014-07-31T20:36:02.797-04:00Thank you for much-needed balance, Olivia and Grie...Thank you for much-needed balance, Olivia and Grieve. It's all to easy to generalize and stereotype.<br /><br />There are certainly NYU students who are civil people and a positive addition to the neighborhood (just as there are non-NYU locals who are a detriment). Perhaps most NYU students are more like Olivia, and it's unfortunately the rude and loud minority of obnoxious students who make a bad name for all of them. <br /><br />This neighborhood has gone through many versions, from waves of immigration, to counter-culturalism, to gentrification, etc. Let's hope some hybrid of all its influences can function somewhat harmoniously now and into the future.<br /><br />Anyway, thank you again for this.<br /><br />Peace - <br /><br />- East VillagerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-69137252574711218912014-07-31T19:36:08.710-04:002014-07-31T19:36:08.710-04:00This has been a civil thread considering the topic...This has been a civil thread considering the topic. shmnyc enough with your anonymous trolling. You add nothing to the conversation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-75027052873974839592014-07-31T19:16:08.887-04:002014-07-31T19:16:08.887-04:00Now let's all skip down Ave. A while holding h...Now let's all skip down Ave. A while holding hands. I suppose this blog can quietly fade away now as well. (why do people read it if they get upset at criticism?)<br /><br />One nice letter doesn't make up for the hundreds who invade the hood every thurs through sun, vomiting as they go. Yes 20 somethings will always behave like 20 somethings, but the EV was still better two decades ago. It just was. It attracted a different element. <br /><br />A friend of mine who lives in the West Vill recently described the crowd who now invades the piers as "stale". It's the same all over.<br /><br />Still, it was a nice letter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-42701448730730957242014-07-31T18:45:44.130-04:002014-07-31T18:45:44.130-04:00If you want to make a real statement to NYU let me...If you want to make a real statement to NYU let me move back to the East Village-LES and be your roommate. I don't mind sleeping on the couch.john penleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06546048103371918505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-10633430044273924932014-07-31T17:57:46.617-04:002014-07-31T17:57:46.617-04:00shmnyc, you are the worst.
Go away please.shmnyc, you are the worst.<br /><br />Go away please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-49676657670048903552014-07-31T17:01:08.040-04:002014-07-31T17:01:08.040-04:00shmnyc you've hit a new low in your rabble rou...shmnyc you've hit a new low in your rabble rousing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-76917324643656956492014-07-31T16:54:02.568-04:002014-07-31T16:54:02.568-04:00This is heartfelt letter by Olivia and shmnyc had ...This is heartfelt letter by Olivia and shmnyc had made this all about him. SMDH. Figures.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-51698817115349440512014-07-31T16:42:29.705-04:002014-07-31T16:42:29.705-04:00SMDH, you're the comment equivalent of toilet ...SMDH, you're the comment equivalent of toilet paper stuck to a shoe. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-5131117446160783052014-07-31T16:41:02.394-04:002014-07-31T16:41:02.394-04:00shmnyc,
Clearly, Olivia's facts did sway many,...shmnyc,<br />Clearly, Olivia's facts did sway many, and few comments are anon'. Stand by it if you want, but that doesn't make it true. <br /><br />And, are you not aware that once you hit Godwin's Law your credibility is zero? You're all but there.<br />bowboynoreply@blogger.com