tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post8986553294051255058..comments2024-03-29T01:38:51.887-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: Empellón al Pastor is now open on Avenue A and St. Mark's PlaceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-34941010728682389862015-01-16T16:10:10.700-05:002015-01-16T16:10:10.700-05:00I used to work there when it was Alcatraz and then...I used to work there when it was Alcatraz and then everybody freaked out that it was becoming a restaurant. Cries of, "There goes the neighborhood!". Now everybody is freaking out because it is becoming a loud bar again. Life is funny if you think about it :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-75028402009382913452014-10-23T10:25:32.586-04:002014-10-23T10:25:32.586-04:00QUIRKY DIVE BAR? It's a fancy pants yuppie ba...QUIRKY DIVE BAR? It's a fancy pants yuppie bar with a big door guy in a suit at the door. Fuck this place. I hope it calms down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-46683101793474389562014-10-22T21:49:32.303-04:002014-10-22T21:49:32.303-04:00"What would any of you put into this space th..."What would any of you put into this space that would appease today's neighborhood"<br /><br />How about the full service Mexican RESTAURANT that they promised and presented to the CB3? And just because they're paying $35,000/month in rent does not grant them to open up a bar or club instead of what they promised to open, a RESTAURANT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-33975722072963693912014-10-22T08:07:53.578-04:002014-10-22T08:07:53.578-04:00What would any of you put into this space that wou...What would any of you put into this space that would appease today's neighborhood and a greedy lawyer? Don't forget they're paying probably 35'000$ a month?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-55027093103554529572014-10-20T23:12:04.126-04:002014-10-20T23:12:04.126-04:00These eats are not cheap, they are $4 for a tiny a...These eats are not cheap, they are $4 for a tiny appetizer, and are so bite-sized small you would need 4-8 just to make a meal of them, which is $16-$32 for the food. Add in a couple of $10 drinks, tax and tip, you get an average check of $45-$60. Otherwise it's just another bar with appetizers, designed for fast service with high volume and turnover. <br /><br />Having a bouncer checking IDs at the door makes it look like a club, and if you have ever attended a CB meeting this always raises red flags as any outdoor lines or door policies inevitably leads to more noise and usually some fighting.<br /><br />The white paper plates mean they have more focus on the drinks, and unless you are serving slices of pizza these have no place in any real eating establishment. <br /><br />Restaurant owners have been forced to lie to community boards to get the liquor license. Once they get it the community is stuck with them. Even Pranna, which has a conga line of drunks vomiting and passing out in the streets every weekend, seemingly can not be forced to change or shut down. <br /><br />This is the system we have, it obviously isn't working, so it's time to change it...Giovannihttp://urbanmyths.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-16171589986383150232014-10-20T22:00:49.186-04:002014-10-20T22:00:49.186-04:00Hey J --
They lied. The Full Board of CB3 approve...Hey J --<br /><br />They lied. The Full Board of CB3 approved a quote "FULL SERVICE MEXICAN RESTAURANT." <br /><br />Check the minutes yourself<br />http://www.nyc.gov/html/mancb3/downloads/minutes/minutes2014-01.pdf<br /><br />They did not approve a bar that happens to sell tacos.<br /><br />Hence the bait-and-switch comments. And we don't need any more bars or places that sell tacos. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-3032267202671894762014-10-20T21:49:43.872-04:002014-10-20T21:49:43.872-04:00This comment section is ridiculous... some people ...This comment section is ridiculous... some people complaining that it's a yuppie spot, while others whine about paper plates. EVERY SINGLE press piece I read stated it was supposed to give the impression of a bar that happened to sell tacos.<br /><br />Bottom line - it's solid, casual place for (relatively) cheap eats, and the drink prices are on par with other spots in the area.The tacos are good, though the tortillas are a bit dry.Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-24518539764597383612014-10-20T17:47:51.170-04:002014-10-20T17:47:51.170-04:00I agree this restaurant is a lie and makes a mocke...I agree this restaurant is a lie and makes a mockery of the board but I'll also agree the board is disorganized and makes uninformed (and I say selfish) decisions. <br />I've been to some meetings and watched the brown nosings of the Stetzer clan at work. It too is a joke of epic proportions that left me frustrated. <br />But now I'm just bitching and not helping. Like the board I'm powerless to the landlord powers at work. Not coolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-75276994601627101202014-10-20T16:18:33.164-04:002014-10-20T16:18:33.164-04:00@ not cool
Stetzer is not a voting member of CB 3...@ not cool <br />Stetzer is not a voting member of CB 3 - have you attended a meeting. The problem is in fact Palitz - who votes everything in and Kaplan who thinks anyone saying they are a restaurant should get whatever they want. Stop blaming Stetzer for everything and show-up at a meeting and participate. this is less about CB 3 supporting this business and the owner just flat out lying to everyone by promising one thing and opening a fuc**ng bar - which we certainly don't need in the hood. people will be coming from all over town to eat bad, small tacos and drink, drink, drink and then probably head someplace to drink, before screaming in the middle of the street for a cab. This place is a joke of epic proportions. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-56130652318145565522014-10-20T15:24:52.309-04:002014-10-20T15:24:52.309-04:00SUSAN STETZER has no control over landlords robbin...SUSAN STETZER has no control over landlords robbing the working business man so she nags about noise like a whiney demerit giving narc. <br /><br />how is she and her clan of nerds making anything in this community more like the east village we all have grown to love?<br />she denies anyone that isnt her 'upper east side fantasy' licenses and then cuts hours short on licensees that would need it most.<br /><br />cb3 is another problem, not a solution. stop fooling yourselvesnot coolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-15224214010470472472014-10-20T13:59:58.021-04:002014-10-20T13:59:58.021-04:00When are people going to realize that it is not th...When are people going to realize that it is not that difficult, given good ingredients, to prepare tasty dishes and that chefs don't need to be hoisted up as heroes in the way that great musicians and artists used to be. Throwing around names like Alex Stupak or Wylie Dufresne the way people used to talk about Joey Ramone or Tom Verlaine. Giving people actual street-cred because they once appeared on "Top Chef". Whatever people. This celebrity chef thing is one of the worst pop-cultural developments of the 21st century.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-86007251818991753222014-10-20T13:05:17.389-04:002014-10-20T13:05:17.389-04:00stupak is definitely talented (his desserts at wd-...stupak is definitely talented (his desserts at wd-50 were mind-blowing) but this is clearly a bait and switch. this isn't the humble, tortilla-producing love letter to al pastor that we were told would open. this is a fucking bar with some snacks available. dishonesty shouldn't be allowed. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-44012630471466244822014-10-20T12:49:36.613-04:002014-10-20T12:49:36.613-04:00BAIT AND SWITCH
CONTACT SUSAN STETZER AT CB3-
s...BAIT AND SWITCH<br /><br />CONTACT SUSAN STETZER AT CB3- <br /><br />sstetzer@cb3manhattan.org<br />212-533-6015<br /><br />PROMISED A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT<br /><br />http://www.nyc.gov/html/mancb3/downloads/sla/2014/01/questionnaires/01-%20132%20St%20Marks%20Place_Questionnaire.pdf<br /><br />http://www.nyc.gov/html/mancb3/downloads/minutes/minutes2014-01.pdf<br /><br />http://ny.eater.com/2014/10/20/7013481/tequila-cocktails-cheffy-micheladas-and-a-few-tacos-on-the-menu-at<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-1375868954680196182014-10-20T12:45:46.194-04:002014-10-20T12:45:46.194-04:00Anon 2:10 good point. The EV is way more Hard Rock...Anon 2:10 good point. The EV is way more Hard Rock Cafe than CBGB at this point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-34797685371148504812014-10-20T12:02:04.049-04:002014-10-20T12:02:04.049-04:00I walked by and actually witnessed people slurping...I walked by and actually witnessed people slurping tiny tacos off of paper plates. Paper plates? Do they serve slices? What, they can't afford to use real plates? Why not use red solo cups too? Nothing says authentic East Village restaurant like eating off a soggy paper plate.<br /><br />And a bouncer checking IDs? Already? This isn't a Restaurant, it's a Drinkaurant.<br /><br />As for the Sunday football beer bash at every other Drinkaurant I give up. Even Nicoletta (a proud member of the EV Deathwatch list) is now promoting Sunday football beer & pizza, a sure sign of desperation, and I thought they were supposed to be above all of that. Giovannihttp://urbanmyths.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-28166317212264705342014-10-20T10:38:35.909-04:002014-10-20T10:38:35.909-04:00The EV doesn't get "nice". The EV ge...The EV doesn't get "nice". The EV gets "lowest common denominator for the B&T/NYU/Columbia/general moron crowd". Start kicking them chicken wings now!Gojiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-81756677786983979332014-10-20T10:15:58.179-04:002014-10-20T10:15:58.179-04:00Was hoping for nice tacos at this place. The menu ...Was hoping for nice tacos at this place. The menu "selection" is seriously lacking. Given their other two spots I was hoping for something nice here but it sucks! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-57065386614736204792014-10-20T10:03:59.911-04:002014-10-20T10:03:59.911-04:00I walked by this place on Saturday night. It's...I walked by this place on Saturday night. It's definitely a crowded, trendy bar (there was a doorman checking IDs) that pretended to be a restaurant for 5 minutes.Glenn Belveriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03654151007886311315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-31929216373752242142014-10-20T09:17:23.111-04:002014-10-20T09:17:23.111-04:00I remember the when I moved to the EV (1995) the O...I remember the when I moved to the EV (1995) the ONLY place that featured Sunday football was the Sports Page on 2nd Ave. (where Moonstruck is now). Few gave a shit and few would be caught dead in that culture. Now sunday afternoon finds the EV (and everyplace else) flooded with bros and gals in their matching hometown team jerseys and EVERY bar is filled with TVs.<br /><br />I'm done now.sam_the_mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-72004435027646677102014-10-19T22:25:03.818-04:002014-10-19T22:25:03.818-04:00Who actually believed they could make insane rent ...Who actually believed they could make insane rent by selling tortillas til midnight 5 days a week? <br /><br />Cb3 wasn't duped they're just morons . Putting more stress on business owners already being out right robbed by outrageous landlord greed isn't helping the community anyway. Not coolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-65380576495791531932014-10-19T21:53:06.435-04:002014-10-19T21:53:06.435-04:00Thank you for this. It's only good cuz those h...Thank you for this. It's only good cuz those hags of cb3 need a lesson in humility. They think a restaurant that sells tortillas can actually last here and have to close by 12 everynight? No. They set it up that they need to make huge money in shrt amount of time everyday for a landlord that they have no control over or even try to tameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-23732362481176240282014-10-19T20:58:23.028-04:002014-10-19T20:58:23.028-04:00This guy is about as punk rock as Maroon 5This guy is about as punk rock as Maroon 5Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-20870693898196001782014-10-19T20:54:48.613-04:002014-10-19T20:54:48.613-04:00"In two years his license will be up for rene..."In two years his license will be up for renewal and if he makes a mockery of residents and the CB he will face an angry-mob."<br /><br />He already is making a mockery of the residents and CB by opening this place the way he is opening it not the way he presented it at CB3.<br /><br />Ever since the Jane's Sweet Buns bait and switch, there's no credibility and respect for CB3, esp. with Palitz--an owner of bars and clubs--at the liquor license committee's helm, anymore and they are easily duped with the phrase of "serving food" to obtain a full liquor license.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-73097941610282209332014-10-19T20:50:18.615-04:002014-10-19T20:50:18.615-04:00"I can't wait to kick chicken wings throu..."I can't wait to kick chicken wings through his front door!<br /><br />Brilliant! Thanks.Crazy Eddienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-18793293261110451842014-10-19T20:40:21.611-04:002014-10-19T20:40:21.611-04:00$5 for a can of Tecate? What a great dive bar. The...$5 for a can of Tecate? What a great dive bar. These guys suckRussnoreply@blogger.com