tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post9088915921010232897..comments2024-03-28T03:47:41.338-04:00Comments on EV Grieve: City Council hosting public hearing on permanent outdoor dining legislation todayUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-58342086784594801072022-02-13T19:41:22.832-05:002022-02-13T19:41:22.832-05:00to clarify--dot does not schedule abandoned sheds ...to clarify--dot does not schedule abandoned sheds for removal. They are put on a list for removal. Very different thing since the list is not executed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-54082818323074560742022-02-10T21:47:59.772-05:002022-02-10T21:47:59.772-05:00At 11:42 AM on February 8, Giovanni said:
New Yor...At 11:42 AM on February 8, Giovanni said:<br /><br /><i>New York City finally comes up with an outdoor bathroom program and now everyone wants to get rid of it.</i><br /><br />That's one way to look at it!Scuba Divahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10326884503725331349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-10027650220429063082022-02-10T18:52:27.348-05:002022-02-10T18:52:27.348-05:00This is a massive transfer of public space (street...This is a massive transfer of public space (streets/sidewalks) to private interests (restaurants and landlords who benefit by increasing their vey expensive retail level space). Typical "Shock Doctrine" thinking, where you use a disaster like a pandemic, to give away public resources. Just say NO to this massive transfer of public wealth to the corporations!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-77461689450864029082022-02-10T17:52:17.787-05:002022-02-10T17:52:17.787-05:00Issue: Narrow streets with dining structures acros...Issue: Narrow streets with dining structures across from bike lanes leave no room for cyclists.<br />Cars need to drive through the bike lane because there just isn’t enough space otherwise.<br />Example: 4th St. between 1st and 2nd Ave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-3351240700424663432022-02-10T10:29:43.661-05:002022-02-10T10:29:43.661-05:00@11:17PM: I don't know how to break it to you,...@11:17PM: I don't know how to break it to you, but in NYC a hell of a lot of those parking spaces are METERED, therefore people ARE paying to park!<br /><br />BTW, you have an odd definition of storage: I guess if an ambulance came to your building b/c someone was injured or had a heart attack, you'd consider that the ambulance was "in storage" while it was waiting at the curb.<br /><br />And I suppose you think fire trucks also are "in storage" while they're parked while a fire is being fought.<br /><br />Or else, according to you, ambulances and fire trucks would be among those you consider to be "running one of several illegal types of business"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-12558159038220774962022-02-09T23:17:21.248-05:002022-02-09T23:17:21.248-05:00Dude, I don't know how to break this to you, b...Dude, I don't know how to break this to you, but in most other places, you have to PAY for the privilege of using city streets to store your car. And it is storage. You're not using it while it's parked, unless you're running one of several illegal types of business.Sarahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-67018946300050045052022-02-09T12:31:35.925-05:002022-02-09T12:31:35.925-05:00@Sarah 4:54 the obnoxious, internet commenter line...@Sarah 4:54 the obnoxious, internet commenter line and never used in real life line of "free car storage" is so annoying. It's parking, not "storage". Vehicles are for transportation, to carry people and items. That's why they're on the road. And that is SHARED and PUBLIC space. Meaning, a vehicle parks, and when it leaves, any other vehicle can go there. Making dramatics about a basic public commodity is obnoxious as hell, and is ignoring all of the many many other reasons this open restaurants thing is a pain in the ass in how it's been implemented. It's annoying to just walk around the neighborhood now, bike, drive, etc. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-19479670523804493892022-02-09T12:25:41.764-05:002022-02-09T12:25:41.764-05:00You can't have it both ways: On one hand, peop...You can't have it both ways: On one hand, people are just "done" with Covid...I see it everywhere (No more masks on our kids! No more talk of the need for vaccination! No more social distancing; let's party!) and on the other hand the restaurant owners want to keep the outdoor seating, Covid or not. I say, get rid of the sheds. They were never meant to be permanent. They represent an ongoing health and safety hazard that should supersede the revenue needs of any private business. These are multi-use public streets. The sheds were established temporarily when the streets were empty due to Covid. They need to be on a timeline to be destroyed and the streets cleaned. Also: Return to normal garbage removal. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-30671125797400027532022-02-09T11:57:25.770-05:002022-02-09T11:57:25.770-05:00@11:07am: You're right - it's not rocket s...@11:07am: You're right - it's not rocket science: Get rid of the sheds, and most of the problem will be resolved!<br /><br />The answer is not a "shed fee" for vermin control; the ANSWER is to take the sheds down.<br /><br />Your idea that "new regulations" would somehow take care of a massive rat infestation is, IMO, naïve at best. We know exactly how well NYC handles these situations; it can't even keep the heat on for thousands of NYCHA tenants, so why would anyone imagine that making a "new regulation" would affect the vermin infestation by even one iota?<br /><br />But perhaps the restaurants can start a new promotion: Every time you dine in a shed, you take a rat home for free!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-79592609433922530232022-02-09T11:07:02.264-05:002022-02-09T11:07:02.264-05:00@10:18- It's not a question of "why YOU s...@10:18- It's not a question of "why YOU should pay, etc".......It's question of HOW the rats can be controlled. Make it a part of the new regulation. If you want a shed pay a fee for rat control. Simple. This not rocket science.XTCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-34684709288586048472022-02-09T10:18:14.335-05:002022-02-09T10:18:14.335-05:00@9:12am: Why don't you explain to everyone *wh...@9:12am: Why don't you explain to everyone *why* those of us who live in the residential buildings should have to use OUR time & money to fight a rat infestation that we did not cause, but whose cause is evident? We did not see rats on my block until the sheds were in use. The cause/effect is utterly clear!<br /><br />You say: "You don't need city inspectors. Set up a website to report the worst offenders." Uh, WHY would that task fall to any ordinary citizen of NYC? We sure as hell DO need city inspectors, preferably ones who can hand out major fines to the shed operators who are creating perfect conditions for rats to breed.<br /><br />My building and other buildings on our block have coordinated our efforts to control rats - and we don't need pointers from you, thanks, b/c we are very very well educated about what is required for rat control. But this is costing all of us (collectively) thousands of dollars and a lot of time. Why should that burden fall on us? We are NOT making money from the dining sheds, and the owners of the restaurants have created a literal nuisance whose cost falls on people who have nothing to do with the restaurants.<br /><br />If we have dining sheds again this summer, NYC will be well on its way to having a rat problem beyond all comprehension.<br /><br />And since rats like to chew on wires, don't be surprised if the power starts going out in various buildings or even on entire blocks. ConEd had to do massive repairs to the electric wiring under the street on my block last summer, and it's likely they will have to do more of that again this year, if the rats are allowed to overtake the neighborhood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-41979479093469593032022-02-09T09:45:53.736-05:002022-02-09T09:45:53.736-05:00If we get huge snowstorms like we had in the '...If we get huge snowstorms like we had in the '90s (see lovely Gaseteria photo below) and we still have the sheds where are they going to put the snow?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-254765704275853782022-02-09T09:38:05.734-05:002022-02-09T09:38:05.734-05:00RE: 12:45 "Street noise is also part of our d...RE: 12:45 "Street noise is also part of our daily lives. I am immune from it at this point."<br />Moronic statement. Many streets pre-covid never had outdoor dining, and therefore were much quieter late night. Tear the sheds down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-75706531238368119472022-02-09T09:27:28.412-05:002022-02-09T09:27:28.412-05:00Love the outdoor dining expansion, definitely a be...Love the outdoor dining expansion, definitely a better use of our streets than just parking. Looking forward to its permanence. Yes, restaurants need to clean up structures if they leave, and there should be noise limits so residents can sleep. Have an enforcement team walking around in the evening to talk to venues and make sure they follow rules. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-70403222890759030952022-02-09T09:12:51.370-05:002022-02-09T09:12:51.370-05:00@6:54- The point of the subway rat posters in 1979...@6:54- The point of the subway rat posters in 1979 was to educate the citizenry about the ABOVE ground problem. Obviously a great deal more people would see a subway car poster many times over than on the street. Even if your building did not have a rat problem doesn't mean it didn't exist elsewhere.<br /><br />Everything I posted can be verified by a google search. In addition there was the Times Sq (Art) Show, June 1980, which included rat portraits along with other punk/ street art. There was also a 3 week garbage strike in 1979. Newbies, imagine what that was like!<br /><br />Yes, there are more visible rats now (as I stated in my first post). Controlling them is not an impossible task- poison, dry ice, metal trash bins, rat patrols. You don't need city inspectors. Set up a website to report the worst offenders. XTCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-20888590112189291492022-02-09T08:54:24.231-05:002022-02-09T08:54:24.231-05:00Why not band together, grab some tools and start d...Why not band together, grab some tools and start dismantling the abandoned shed? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-16131971039373201042022-02-09T08:40:25.756-05:002022-02-09T08:40:25.756-05:00https://www.change.org/p/mayor-bill-de-blasio-nyc-...https://www.change.org/p/mayor-bill-de-blasio-nyc-s-covid-emergency-restaurant-measures-should-end-because-the-covid-emergency-has-ended-no-permanent-dining-sheds<br />“ NYC’s dining sheds have served their purpose — time to shut the COVID dining huts.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-32426899094298733832022-02-09T08:10:24.255-05:002022-02-09T08:10:24.255-05:00Yikes! Some of these comments back and forth are ...Yikes! Some of these comments back and forth are irate and misguided. Can't more of us just be nicer to each other? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-11690937333423331742022-02-09T07:12:15.803-05:002022-02-09T07:12:15.803-05:00@1:48AM: "The building just needs to report, ...@1:48AM: "The building just needs to report, DOS will take it down and away".<br /><br />Yep, so private money was spent on the shed (and becomes a business expense deduction), but PUBLIC (taxpayer) money gets spent to remove it. And people complain about "free parking on the street" for cars? At least THAT is democratically available to everyone, not just restaurant owners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-8319413637023402002022-02-09T06:54:38.893-05:002022-02-09T06:54:38.893-05:00@9:26PM: If you can't tell the difference betw...@9:26PM: If you can't tell the difference between posters about rats in the SUBWAY (which have always been a problem) and the reality of rats in buildings that have not had a rat issue in decades, I can't help you.<br /><br />But we know for sure that those sheds are just literal rats' nests, from which spring forth more vermin than ever before.<br /><br />And here's my recent experience: The last time a rat was seen in my building was almost 30 years ago. But 3 weeks ago, I had to kill an adolescent rat in my apartment at 2AM, by bashing it with an old shoe. And since rats carry all kinds of diseases, it's nice to know they're coming indoors to make themselves comfortable...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-67257772556751067982022-02-09T01:48:43.314-05:002022-02-09T01:48:43.314-05:00The building just needs to report, DOS will take i...The building just needs to report, DOS will take it down and awayevccnychttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05025081611876064755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-87885959244284261672022-02-09T01:44:46.793-05:002022-02-09T01:44:46.793-05:00Report abandoned shed to 311. DOS not DOT will get...Report abandoned shed to 311. DOS not DOT will get it done, Forward complaints to CB 3.evccnychttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05025081611876064755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-78469761174682369492022-02-09T00:01:18.517-05:002022-02-09T00:01:18.517-05:00@4:54PM: "... with an AGGRESSIVE inspection p...@4:54PM: "... with an AGGRESSIVE inspection program that WILL revoke permits for the noncompliant. That includes a music ban after 11 pm. Also every restaurant should have to post a bond against ultimate dismantling of the sheds should the business close."<br /><br />Dream on. That's never gonna happen. The city can't even fine the restaurant that let Sarah Palin eat there while she was Covid-positive and unvaxxed ... b/c there "has to be a city inspector there to see the offense". As I said, dream on, b/c NYC does not do enforcement of these offenses. I personally think a lot of people are getting paid off very handsomely to look the other way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-87198570683253336192022-02-08T22:31:52.849-05:002022-02-08T22:31:52.849-05:00 Giovanni. Always sharp as a razor. LOL!!! Giovanni. Always sharp as a razor. LOL!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5694390946037511355.post-43737062989374256662022-02-08T21:32:20.166-05:002022-02-08T21:32:20.166-05:00For those of you who submitted testimony, we have ...For those of you who submitted testimony, we have been advised to also send it to Carlina Rivera's office, which is apparently tallying pro and con votes, as well as to Susan Stetzer at the CB3: <br />District2@council.nyc.gov <br />sstetzer@cb.nyc.gov<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com