Showing posts with label Sin Sin. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Sin Sin. Show all posts

Tuesday, September 14, 2010

'The neighborhood will not rest until you are gone and Sin Sin’s license is revoked'



In early August, residents met Sin Sin's management to voice concerns about ongoing issues with the club at Second Avenue and Fifth Street. The meeting didn't seem to go so well. Per a summary of the meeting provided by the East Fifth Street Block Association:

Sin Sin owner Philip [Quilter] seemed unable to muster any kind of serious commitment to dealing with these problems. He did say he would hire an additional bouncer, but only when pressed. His attitude waffled between saying that Sin Sin takes every reasonable measure to ensure quiet ... to denying that Sin Sin was even responsible for the behavior on the street.

He was promptly told that most everyone in the room has personally witnessed the mayhem emanate from Sin Sin. ... We left the ball in his court, asking him to write out his proposal to remediate the problem, asking him to specifically address security and patrons loitering on the street, and to look at his programming to see if changes could be made there.


Tragedy struck several weeks later when 37-year-old Devin Thompson was shot twice on Second Avenue outside the club on Aug. 22. He died from his wounds on Aug. 31. According to reports, Thompson and the two men police believe are responsible for the shooting were inside the club earlier in the evening on Aug. 22.

Relations between neighbors and the club may just be beyond repair now. In an e-mail to residents dated Aug. 25, Quilter wrote that some of the DJs that the club had hired to play weekend nights had been fired. He continued: "Since that meeting on the 4th, I have personally addressed your concerns and conveyed our ideas on how to better meet your requests with all the personnel at several staff meetings. Also, I have implemented and am enforcing a stricter door policy, I am personally monitoring all our patron's parties including bachelorette, birthdays, etc, at the location and as a result, I believe, the programming of the venue has improved dramatically in just a few short weeks." He also said that Sin Sin was cooperating with police in their investigation.

And how did this go over? Here is the response sent on Friday from Stuart Zamsky, president of the East Fifth Street Block Association:

Thank you for your response. We did, however ask that you give us specific information regarding former and present programmers, DJs or promoters responsible for the various nights at your club, which you refuse to present to us. And, though you would not give any detailed information, when pressed to respond you asked that we “believe you”, that the persons responsible for drawing the violent crowd to your club had been dismissed after our August 4th meeting. In the interim, your patrons have escalated the violence to murdering someone in our streets.

Sir, we do not believe you. Not a word that you say. And, as we said at the meeting on the 4th we have no desire to talk to you or to listen to your hollow promises. Do you think that we do not have eyes and ears? We see the same problematic clientele patronizing your club as before. We are looking for action, and until action is taken, and you begin to court a clientele who is not violent, you will continue to be viewed as a scourge on our otherwise peaceful neighborhood. And, the neighborhood will not rest until you are gone and Sin Sin’s license is revoked.


Meanwhile, next Tuesday, the Block Association is distributing flyers for the Ninth Precinct Community Counsel meeting.



Previously on EV Grieve:
NYPD hosting meeting between Sin Sin and neighbors tonight

East Village noise wars new battlefront: Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge

Why the president of the East Fifth Street Block Association carries a baseball bat

Friday, September 10, 2010

Memorial in place for murder victim outside Sin Sin

Earlier this week, Patrick Hedlund at DNAinfo reported that the Sin Sin management refused to allow the sister of the man slain outside the club to create a temporary memorial in his honor.

However, perhaps Sin Sin had second thoughts about the tribute to 37-year-old Devin Thompson, who was shot twice on Second Avenue at East Fifth Street on Aug. 22.... Last night, a memorial was in place on East Fifth Street....





Patrick Hedlund has an update here.

Previously on EV Grieve:
NYPD hosting meeting between Sin Sin and neighbors tonight

East Village noise wars new battlefront: Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge

Why the president of the East Fifth Street Block Association carries a baseball bat

Tuesday, September 7, 2010

Report: Sin Sin nixes temporary memorial for shooting victim



Last week, 37-year-old Devin Thompson died from his injuries after being shot twice outside Sin Sin at the corner of East Fifth Street and Second Avenue on Aug. 22.

Today, Patrick Hedlund at DNAinfo reports that Sin Sin's management nixed Thompson's sister's request to place a temporary memorial near the site of the deadly shooting.

Per the article:

The victim’s sister, Makeba Thompson, said that his family and friends wanted to simply hang flowers from a tree in front the nightclub as a temporary memorial to her brother.

But when she asked the club’s owner about adding the flowers, he asked her not to.

“He said we could do it anyway if we wanted to, but it will definitely bring negative attention to his establishment,” said Makeba Thompson, 41.

Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge owner Philip Quilter acknowledged that he requested the memorial not go up, explaining that it may offend neighbors who have complained about issues of violence and noise related to his establishment.

“I would think there would be a backlash from our neighborhood if there was a memorial put outside,” he said, noting that passersby have been calling members of his staff “murderers” and “killers” since the shooting occurred.


Previously on EV Grieve:
NYPD hosting meeting between Sin Sin and neighbors tonight

East Village noise wars new battlefront: Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge

Why the president of the East Fifth Street Block Association carries a baseball bat

Thursday, September 2, 2010

Why the president of the East Fifth Street Block Association carries a baseball bat

We've been writing about some of the issues stemming from Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge on Fifth Street and Second Avenue... In the aftermath of the deadly shooting on this corner on Aug. 22, neighbors reiterated the ongoing problems that they've had from the club.

Per Patrick Hedlund's article today at DNAinfo:

East Fifth Street resident Stuart Zamsky has gotten so fed up with the noise and violence stemming from the nearby nightclub Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge that he’s taken to patrolling the sidewalk with a baseball bat to keep the crowds from disturbing his family.

Visitors to the popular nightspot will often gather outside the window of his two young sons’ room, screaming obscenities and even fighting on busy weekend nights, he said.


Zamsky is the East Fifth Street Block Association.

And here's Sin Sin's take on the issues:

“There have been altercations on the street. It’s a very busy intersection,” said Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge owner Philip Quilter, who supplied the police with surveillance footage of the suspects from the night of the shooting.

It has been mentioned that we’re responsible entirely [for the noise and violence], and that’s not the case,” he added. “We are responsible for some noise, but we’re the only place to police the streets until 5 o’clock in the morning.”


He said that they will have four or five bouncers on duty during busy weekend nights.

One resident has also taken some videos of a few incidents.... (the altercation begins about the 2-minute mark on this one...)






Previously on EV Grieve:
NYPD hosting meeting between Sin Sin and neighbors tonight

East Village noise wars new battlefront: Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge

Wednesday, September 1, 2010

Victim dies from shooting outside Sin Sin; police seek 2 suspects



According to a published report, two men are now wanted in the fatal shooting that occurred on Second Avenue and Fifth Street outside Sin Sin on Aug. 22.

As Patrick Hedlund reported at DNAinfo:

The victim, Devin Thompson, 37, of Kips Bay, was shot twice at the corner of East Fifth Street about 4 a.m. on Sun., Aug. 22, police said.

The man remained in critical condition at Bellevue hospital until dying from his wounds on Monday, NYPD sources said.

The incident occurred near the popular nightclub Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge, a location that police have been called to three times over the past year following reports of drug use and prostitution, sources said.

The victim and two suspects had been inside the club before the shooting occurred, but it is unknown whether the men knew each another prior to the incident, police added.


The NYPD also released video footage of the two suspects:



Previously on EV Grieve:
NYPD hosting meeting between Sin Sin and neighbors tonight

East Village noise wars new battlefront: Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge

Wednesday, August 25, 2010

Sunday, August 22, 2010

[Updated] Police investigating shooting on Second Avenue and Fifth Street

Police are investigating an early morning shooting on Second Avenue and Fifth Street near Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge. Police have recovered four shell casings from the scene.







Concerned neighbors recently met with Sin Sin management to discuss problems they were experiencing "as a result of Sin Sin's method of operation, ranging from people partying in their cars, to crowds on the street, trash and waste deposited by patrons, violence from patrons."

[Updated] Patrick Hedlund at DNAinfo has a follow-up on my report from this morning:

A man is in critical condition after being shot twice on a busy stretch of Second Avenue early Sunday morning, police said.

The unnamed victim, 43, was shot in the chest and arm at the corner of East Fifth Street at about 4 a.m., NYPD sources said.

He was transported to Bellevue Hospital and remains in critical condition, police said.


The club's owner, Philip Quilter, told DNA that he "didn't believe the people involved were inside the place at any point."

Previously on EV Grieve:
NYPD hosting meeting between Sin Sin and neighbors tonight

East Village noise wars new battlefront: Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge

Tuesday, August 10, 2010

Sin Sin meets the neighbors



This is a brief report on the meeting that took place last Wednesday night starring Sin Sin, the NYPD and local residents...the summary is courtesy of the East Fifth Street Block Association...

During the course of the disorganized meeting, various residents reiterated some of the problems they were experiencing as a result of Sin Sin's method of operation, ranging from people partying in their cars, to crowds on the street, trash and waste deposited by patrons, violence from patrons ... These were not new items being discussed, as they were brought to light recently at CB3 and other meetings.

Sin Sin owner Phillip seemed unable to muster any kind of serious commitment to dealing with these problems. He did say he would hire an additional bouncer, but only when pressed. His attitude waffled between saying that Sin Sin takes every reasonable measure to ensure quiet ... to denying that Sin Sin was even responsible for the behavior on the street.

He was promptly told that most everyone in the room has personally witnessed the mayhem emanate from Sin Sin. ... We left the ball in his court, asking him to write out his proposal to remediate the problem, asking him to specifically address security and patrons loitering on the street, and to look at his programming to see if changes could be made there.

Lt. Ferguson was nearly as bad as the club owner. He recounted statistics that the block association has known for years, and was responsible for bringing to the officials' attention. When asked what the police would/could do for our community, he seemed at a complete loss and said that they were overwhelmed with this sort of thing throughout their/our precinct. He gave out numbers to call ... but his inability to commit to dealing with this problem was disheartening.

The upside of the evening is that there is now an official record, witnessed by the police of the unwillingness of the bar to try to remediate the problem, AND their persistence in denying that they are the cause.




Previously on EV Grieve:
NYPD hosting meeting between Sin Sin and neighbors tonight

East Village noise wars new battlefront: Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge

How Lit Lounge is trying to be a better neighbor

Wednesday, August 4, 2010

NYPD hosting meeting between Sin Sin and neighbors tonight



Lt. Patrick Ferguson of the Ninth Precinct has organized a meeting tonight at 7 between neighbors and Sin Sin's management. The meeting will take place at Sin Sin, 248 E. Fifth St.

In a post from last month, Stuart Zamsky, president of the East Fifth Street Block Association, called the bar combo on the corner of Fifth Street and Second Avenue, a "notoriously bad neighbor." Among the alleged disruptions: "Night after night of screaming, shouting into cell phones and loud music" and "fist fights are a common occurrence." (Their website advertises hosting birthday parties fro groups of 15 to 300.)

Last month, the CB3/SLA committee rejected Sin Sin's liquor license transfer. As Eater reported: "Neighbors came out in full swing ... with 20 showing up to oppose the transfer, claiming that Sin Sin was the source of countless brawls and noise issues in the neighborhood... Things got personal, as CB3 chair Dominic Pisciotta questioned whether the transfer applicants’ background in managing a Dunkin’ Donuts made them unqualified to take on a bar with such a troubled history."

So tonight: Will there be meaningful dialogue that gets to the root of the problem, or will management offer some olive branches such as, say, the cellphone number of the bouncer to call at 4 a.m. when patrons are yelling outside? Perhaps team Sin Sin can speak with the Lit Lounge owners, who have made strides in reducing the quality-of-life issues surrounding their club.

Residents who are directly impacted by Sin Sin are encouraged to attend tonight's meeting.

Previously on EV Grieve:
East Village noise wars new battlefront: Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge

How Lit Lounge is trying to be a better neighbor

Friday, July 9, 2010

East Village noise wars new battlefront: Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge


Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge is on the docket for the CB3/SLA meeting next Thursday for a liquor license transfer...

Stuart Zamsky, president of the East Fifth Street Block Association, calls the bar combo on the corner of Fifth Street and Second Avenue, a "notoriously bad neighbor."
Among the alleged disruptions: "Night after night of screaming, shouting into cell phones and loud music" and "fist fights are a common occurrence." (Their website advertises hosting birthday parties fro groups of 15 to 300.)

Zamsky is asking for residents who are directly impacted by Sin Sin and live in close proximity to it (on Fifth Street or Second Avenue) to sign the online petition (and include your building’s address with your signature). The petition is here.

You can also write a short letter entailing the difficulties you experience due to Sin Sin and forward it to Zamsky: east5thstreetba@mail.com

Also, as he notes, you can attend the meeting on Thursday at 6:30 p.m. — JASA/Green Residence, 200 E. Fifth St. at the Bowery.

If you live in the neighborhood but not necessarily in close proximity to Sin Sin, Zamsky says you can write a short letter entailing the difficulties you experience due to the proliferation of bars in your East Village/Cooper Square neighborhood and forward it to him: east5thstreetba@mail.com.

As Zamsky says: "Sin Sin received its license before the East Fifth Street Block Association began getting asking to agree to stipulations regarding their methods of operation. This license transfer application is the neighborhood’s opportunity to sit down with the operators and get them to agree in writing to conduct their business in a fashion that will allow residents to experience peaceable nights."

Previously, the East Fifth Street Block Association worked with the Lit Lounge owners on becoming better neighbors. You can read about that right here.



P.S.
If you do go the the Sin Sin website, then turn the volume down in advance. Party photo via the Sin Sin website.