Woo! High-fives everyone!
Oh.
According to the paper's not-really-surprising analysis, the East Village (2,108 noise complaints), the Lower East Side (2,069) and Williamsburg (2,061) are the city's top three offenders.
Local leaders responded:
Susan Stetzer, district manager of Community Board 3, which oversees the East Village, said the area has had the most complaints "for many years" and that it's "nothing new."
How will you celebrate this hard-earned victory?
[St. Patrick's Day 2012 via Bobby Williams]
nothing new, but CB3 will still approve places like the DL and EMM on the bowery.
ReplyDeleteAt least the junkies were quiet.
ReplyDeletewhat did you say? i can't hear you above the noise!
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Susan Stetzer should be forced to live on AA Row - AKA the 13th Step / Professor Thom's block - then let's see how nonchalant she is. Maybe then she'd take this seriously.
ReplyDeleteThe East Village has NEVER been this bad with regards to bars, drinking and public displays of alcoholism, except maybe in the 1800s when we didn't have laws and community boards.
In other community new: I had a very productive Monday afternoon. I watched the Wacky Wok flyer guy spend five minutes trying to figure out how to tape a flyer on the Theater for the New City's board. I then caught the 4th Street dog owner who doesn't EVER clean up after his dog. And it is a neighborhood regular, ugh.
ReplyDeleteBy hanging Susan Stetzer in effigy?
ReplyDeleteIs it the noisiest or the place where people complain the most?
ReplyDeleteScientific Data!
I'm not sure why anyone blames Susan Stetzer. The noise comes from the bars. The bars get approved by CB3's SLA committee. Stetzer is not on that committee. But other bar owners are.
ReplyDeleteMore bars in the area make for a nightlife district, which these committee members love. That way, it increases the value of their establishments, so they can sell them for a greater profit.
Until more local residents get on the CB3/SLA committee, and say NO to the bar applications, we have no one to blame but ourselves.
St. Marks Place might as well be Crescent Street or Bourbon Street. The playground in TSP is more my speed these days.
ReplyDeleteEV! EV! I'M NOT READING YOU! DO YOU COPY OVER?
ReplyDelete...and which area is the most quiet?
ReplyDeletenot that i'm going to leave my beloved East Village...
@bowery boy - the reality is, it does not matter what the SLA committee says, be it yea or nay. It's the state SLA that has final jurisdiction, and they rubber-stamp everything for approval because their only concern, which has been the case for years, is getting the money for the licenses. The SLA commissioners all live upstate and are not impacted by their decisions to turn NYC into Nightlife Central, so they don't care about the fallout from too many bars and drunks.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how many of the 311 calls were related to construction noise.
ReplyDeleteThe woo-ing has gotten out of control in the past few year. It used to be an occasional frat party that moved to a rooftop projecting mainstream rap upwards and outwards but the noise now is drunks (as many women as men) screaming like idiots to show how awesome a time they are having just before they hurl.
ReplyDeleteI don't know why people blame Susan. She does have a vote in anything that comes before CB3. If you want to change CB3 then volunteer to join them so you can change things. CB3's recommendations are only advisory but if there are valid legal grounds to deny then the SLA will sometimes listen. Lot's of people opposing certainly helps but you need to catch a place lying on their application or bring up past violations for places they have owned.
ReplyDeleteMr Grieve, I remember some time ago you had a piece on Police Summonses for things like disorderly conduct, public drunkeness, etc...And how the number of summonses issued paled in comparison to other neighborhoods. You were on to something there...I know its the bars responsibility to maintain their customers, but how about MORE action from police? The onus of all these noise issues has fallen on the bars, and rightfully so, but should they have to police the noise on streets by themselves? How about increasing the number of summonses for disorderly conduct to NYU yahoos from Nebraska, and maybe word gets around dorms, and maybe morons will start acting better...
ReplyDeleteThe East Village has always been noisy. What's new is the abundance of nancies who complain about such things.
ReplyDeleteI was not saying that I think the noise is ok--i am the one that tries to deal with the complaints--I was simply telling the reporter that this was not a new story and I didn't have time to speak to him. (I was too busy trying to deal with complaints) The Community Board District Needs statement every year reports that we have more commerical noise complaints than any other board. I don't have time to respond to every baby reporter who rediscovers this. Commercial noise complaints is bar noise--not construction noise or any other noise complaints. Susan stetzer
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