Tuesday, December 13, 2022

Before Dallas BBQ

Top photo by Stacie Joy

News of Dallas BBQ closing after service on Dec. 31 prompted several reader queries: What was on this NE corner of St. Mark's Place and Second Avenue before the BBQ arrived in the mid-1980s? 

Longtime St. Mark's Place resident and photographer Godlis responded to the request...

20 comments:

  1. Holy cow, this picture brings back memories. I sadly had forgotten about this place. Yup Im a long time EV resident.

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  2. Thank you! I remember when Dallas BBQ was new but couldn't remember what it replaced.

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  3. Antitoxins!

    Like @Anon. 12:08 I, too, had forgotten about this place. Thanks for the memory nudge, EVG and Mr. Godlis!

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  4. Great photo. Beautiful colors, and trash cans with character.

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  5. I'm here for many many many many many many many Decades and damn I dont remember that place...

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  6. Estroff was the joint! This one pharmacist would front me my meds when my insurance kept trying to deny me. Everyone that worked there was always so friendly. They treated their regulars like family.

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  7. Note the Missing Foundation upside down martini glass logo. “The party’s over. 1933”

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    1. Oh wow! I remember that graffiti from that moment. Good eye!

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    2. The party is over is probably one of the best quotes from PM. Water wars was good as well. I have a picture from my friend who has since passed door- inside part . Pete had written “ The party is Over” on it with the upside down martini glass . My friend was bought out by Jared Kushner and moved back to the west coast and died within the year. Weird memories.

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    3. According to a NYT article from 2002, Peter Missing created the logo in 1980 for his band Drunk Driving. Missing Foundation was formed in 1985. So, technically, this particular logo was for the band Drunk Driving

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    4. Slightly more interesting or not is that when that friend moved he let his friends take all of the art from his walls. Everyone wanted the PM piece. I took the last one left from Alan Streets- the artist suffering from schizophrenia from England originally. Turns out it was the most valuable of the lot. But I’d never sell it, it reminds me of my friend and the eclectic group of people he befriended living here for 30? maybe 40 years. Sometimes I wonder about where that art ended up. He was friends with so many artists when they were just starting out professionally.

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  8. The Estroff entrance was on the 2nd Ave. side, around where Azealeas is.
    Scott was the man at Estroff. I think he was the owner. He was a great guy who did a lot of favors for people, like filling scripts when people didn’t have enough money and advising folks who didn’t have healthcare. He was always kind to people.
    When they closed, they moved down to somewhere like 3rd St and A or B.

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  9. Actually the Missing Foundation logo had three vertical lines/downstrokes on the bottom intersected by a diagonal line bisecting the three lines. More noteworthy are the anti-rat metal trash bins with lids.

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  10. Remember it quiet well.
    We had a bakery across the street..
    It was another era.
    Storefronts we’re cheap-apts we’re cheap.
    You could not giveaway whole building.
    Thank god we still live on east 7th st an can afford our great railroad rent stabilized apt.♥️

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  11. The "Missing Foundation" was one of many memorable graffiti and artist tags from those days. I remember seeing the flyers for "W.O.W. and the Plasmatics" plastered all over the EV; as well as Basquiat's and Haring's pieces.

    How about looking down on various sidewalk corners seeing "The Human Bean" stencil painted there. And there are so many more that come to mind. One artist had a series of small posters up for a few years called "The Extended American Family", or something to that effect. It would be very interesting to see a series of Grieve articles illustrating such artworks from those times if there are photos or records of them.

    Those were interesting times

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  12. Nice photo. Great that Godis has these now historical photos.

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  13. Carol from East 5th StreetDecember 15, 2022 at 12:38 AM

    This photograph is of a pharmacy on the south east corner of St Marks Place and Second Avenue with the east-west street on the left side of the store. I remember the entrance of Estroffs on Second Avenue north of St Marks Place which places it on the north east corner of Second Avenue and St Marks Place.
    I also remember it had two parts. On the left (north side) were standard pharmaceutical supplies and on the right side were Homeopathic medicines.
    Scott the owner was a great guy.He gave us the name of a homeopathic doctor that saved our daughter from (unnecessary) surgery.
    Still love the East Village but miss the OG East Village.

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