They'll be appearing before CB3's SLA committee tonight for a new liquor license for the space...
The questionnaire on file at the CB3 website shows that the restaurant will hold 74 people inside and another 19 in the backyard... with proposed (post-pandemic) hours of 10 a.m. to 4 a.m. (with a 2 a.m. close on Sunday and Monday).
The virtual committee meeting starts tonight at 6:30. The Zoom link is here.
Until late last summer, this space was home to Mace, the high-end cocktail bar... which moved on to West Eighth Street. Mace relocated from Ninth Street to this larger space in early 2019.
Double Wide closed at No. 503-505 in March 2018 (much to the relief of some neighbors). Noise issues have been persistent here dating back to the Mundial and Totem days.
H/T to the reader who shared these photos!
34 comments:
I live on this block, and NOT all of us were happy to see Doube Wide leave!! Enough with the DW bashing!!! Mace opened up and didn’t last!! I hope the new place has better luck!! When it comes to this space and block “get some NEW material!!! 🤬
Khe-yo is fantastic, this would be awesome. More variety in food choices for the hood.
I live on this block and as a member of the 12 St block association nobody in our group is favor of this restaurant /BAR coming to our quiet residential street. Many new families have moved to this block in the past two years and if you have any doubts check out the number of children of all ages in the new opened Joseph C Sauer Park/Playground.
Two very busy restaurants on our block operate on a limited alcohol permit. One beer and wine, the other a Mexican restaurant, beer and tequila. We don't want a return of the days of a rowdy 20 something bar and the thought of the garden space being used as an extension to the restaurant will mean emotional stress, loss of sleep and more damage to neighbors' mental health after enduring a year of a worldwide pandemic. If anyone reading this lives in a rear apartment which is exposed to shared garden spaces, you know how sound is amplified and resonates at night.
If you want to party, get drunk there are already too many options on Ave A to do this.
Service till 4AM? I wouldnt want this on my block either.
21 bucks for spring rolls?!? Dans votre chapeau!
4am should be a non-starter, especially on weeknights. The "backyard" also is incredibly noisy and is not meant to be used as restaurant seating. As a CB3 board member said "this is the area meant for storing your trash, not for people". When Mace got their permit, not using the backyard was a condition.
I'm happy it's a restaurant and not a bar. But a restaurant should not have a 4am closing, that is crazy....
So you dont like the 24hr McDonalds or the diners that run 24/7 Why do you live here? Plenty of suburbs around where everything shuts down by 10pm. It's one thing to not have a backyard but they should be open 24/7 if they want. Let's take away everything unique about NYC and wonder why people won't pay the rent to live here. Make it like Cincinnati but the rent is 5x higher. That makes sense.
Sounds delicious! Can't wait to try this place.
@Anon. 11:12AM - 24-hour McDonald's and diners aren't shoehorned into storefronts in residential buildings on side streets.
"So you dont like the 24hr McDonalds or the diners that run 24/7 Why do you live here? Plenty of suburbs around where everything shuts down by 10pm."
You know things are getting back to "normal" around here when you see the "why don't you move to the suburbs" comment on an EV Grieve thread, usually (not always) by some transient suburban transplant. Oh the irony.
Why doesn't this block association do something about Racllete's take-over of the sidewalk in front of its place? It's like you're walking thru the restaurant as you pass by. Also, a 4am closing for a restaurant does smell like trouble.
I live diagonally across the street, and we were tortured by the noise from Double Wide. Mace was fine in the beginning, but they eventually got bad with the music. This place wants to stay open until 4 a.m.? Doesn't sound like a restaurant to me. Sounds like a bar. The noise is already insane on this corner from the outdoor dining and music at Au Za'atar, El Camion and Raclette. Please show up at the zoom meeting tonight if you live in the area.
Backyards at venues close by 9 or 10pm, there’s not going to be noise outside all night. I’d much prefer a restaurant over a sports bars.
Backyard gardens are always a bad idea. Even for those places that try their best it's very noisy. I hope those nearby attend the meeting or they will live to regret not doing so. The food looks good, although very expensive. $16 for coconut rice ?
That was my comment. I've lived here my entire life. 50 years. Too many suburban transplants and people from the flyover zone are a big problem. This is a 24/7 city. Its loud and dirty. Its not for everyone. We should not change it because some transplants dont like it. Move back to Nebraska. There are many transplant commenters here who think they can tell natives what to think. Sorry. There are many things unique to the city and let's keep it that way.
Khe-Yo is an excellent restaurant. We love going there for their Laotian New Year special menu every year. And we love the owner's mom! She's a wonderful person, and we hope she's doing well.
I am surprised they are allowed to use that outdoor area as seating a) because the noise drives the people in the back crazy and b) there is no way to exit safely in the event of a fire. That's why the space behind Yaffa was shut down. So why are they allowed to have outdoor seating in the back here?
People that move to NYC fir the bars can look elsewhere. Cincinnati is a nice town but New Yorkers deserve not be disturbed at night by a bunch of spoiled kids they didn’t have to go to work the next day.
McDonald doesn’t serve liquor. That’s where all the problems start.
The backyards are zoned for tenants' use but the DOB acts otherwise. I think liquor licensees to be ask for 4 a.m. so they can compromise on 2 a.m.
Mmm, love Laotian and Cambodian food, we have a lot of Thai and now some great Vietnamese, but this will be a lovely addition.
Racllete's set up is no different and no worse than other hundreds of restaurants. We walk by there 4 times a day, and it's never annoying. This is a great place and we'd like it to survive.
I don't think you get that new place right. I doubt it aims for a rowdy 20 something crowd.
Also, if that Mexican restaurant on your block serves tequila, it has a full liquor license. There's no beer and tequila permit.
I would be so happy if a real restaurant opened there serving food the locals can afford. We don't need another bar on this stretch. We are saturated with them on upper Avenue A and the music and loud people all night is hard on residents who are already struggling.
The meeting last night deemed that there would be no use of the outdoor space at all.
Also new hours S-W 10am to 12am and Thu-Sat 10am to 2am (No longer 4am any day of the week).
Would have been good to have some supporters of new places / nightlife on the call, the SLA committee + speakers were mostly down on the new addition and yes, everyone called it a BAR. To be clear, their license was approved with other stipulations besides hours / outside.
The chef, a Laotian refuge who has been living in NYC since 1999, spoke really earnestly and eloquently at the end of the presentation. Continuing to mention the unique food as well as need for multiple revenue streams. Hoping this team succeeds for diners, locals and those living nearby!
There's going to be more meetings like this - if you live in the neighborhood and want to speak up - book mark this page and come to more monthly meetings!
https://www1.nyc.gov/html/mancb3/html/calendar/calendar.shtml
the new crackheads are out back playing beer pong all night. They aren't going to spend $20 for coconut rice when they spend $5 on PPB and beer pong, screaming all night in our backyards. It is an attack on the residents by the transients.
I love how "foodies" think feeding their fetish comes first and those living nearby a loud restaurant / bar should put up the noise or move to the mid-west as the only possible options. Guess again. Despite efforts from the GOP, we still live in a Democracy and people still have rights and can demand a certain quality of life in the very neighborhood they live in. Those in such favor more bars and bars passing as restaurants should move to a building with such a place below them.
The chef is Laotian, but Nick Bradley is the owner and is on all the paperwork. I am all for a new restaurant but not a place that is going to cater to people who want to drink and party until 2 a.m. Every bar/restaurant that has come into this space has lied to us over the years. Their prices are also concerning because fine dining has not caught on in the EV so they are going to have to rely on booze and appetizers to make money.
Glad they were approved! Good luck to the new venue, the hours sound more reasonable now as well.
Drinking doesn't necessarily mean "party", and if you object to even 2AM curfew, then the suburbs are the place for you.
THANK YOU! We live in one of the great nightlife cities of the world and these cranky yuppies wish it were just like any other quiet hamlet in the Midwest... long live East Village nightlife
Hi EV G! Any updates on this? New notice on the door. Neighbors were not happy about this last March. Thanks.
any updates on this?
Supposedly opens Friday, July 8.
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