Photos and interviews by Stacie Joy
Photos from Tuesday, when the pop-up shop was closed
In the days since cookbook seller Bonnie Slotnick was arrested following a confrontation with a security worker outside the Harry Styles Together Together pop-up, several neighboring merchants on Second Street between Second Avenue and the Bowery have told EVG that the crowds and lines have created ongoing headaches for businesses along the block.
Their experiences vary. Some described recurring problems with blocked storefronts and crowded sidewalks, while others said the pop-up staff has been courteous and responsive.
Several merchants, however, agreed on one point: The large crowds haven't necessarily translated into additional business for their shops.
Adrian Rew, owner of Ergot Records, said the atmosphere on Second Street changes considerably from Wednesday through Sunday, when Together Together is open.
"The line from the Harry Styles pop-up wraps around our block," he said. "It feels quite different here during those days. It's not peaceful."
Early on, Rew said, the line extended directly across his storefront. After he approached the pop-up team, workers created a gap to provide access to Ergot. Keeping that space clear has required repeated reminders, he said, particularly as staff members managing the line have changed.
"It has felt like the communication hasn't really been there," Rew said. "At a certain point you give up trying to introduce yourself to every new person you see. It just starts to become frustrating."
Rew was not present for the confrontation that led to Slotnick's arrest. He said he later heard from a security worker that his neighbor had pulled a knife — a characterization Rew questioned after speaking with Slotnick, who told EVG last week that the object in her hand was a metal bicycle key.
"Which would have been pretty unlike Bonnie, in my experience of being Bonnie's neighbor," Rew said. "Bonnie gave me a housewarming gift when I moved in. She's the only person on the block to do that. I think she is a neighborhood person who cares about the people around her."
Rew said a representative from the pop-up visited his store after EVG's story was published to ask what organizers could do to improve conditions for businesses on the block.
"Right after your story went up, a woman named Paula came by to talk to me," he said. "She asked what they could do to make things smooth for us on the block, and I told her they could start by not arresting one of my neighbors."
According to Rew, the representative responded that when someone pulls a weapon on a staff member, they have the right to call the police.
Rew said another representative stopped by a few days later and again asked what could be done to improve things for neighboring businesses.
"I just told her that someone had come by on Sunday and that I didn't have anything more to add," he said.
Nearby merchants Sandeep and Carson Salter, co-owners of Salter House, also described the queue as "fairly obtrusive," saying it has blocked the sidewalk, crowded their entrance and obscured storefronts that sit below street level.
"We haven't had any altercations or conflict with the queue or security, but we feel Bonnie's frustration," they said in a joint statement. "Her cookbook store is a gem of the neighborhood, and a big reason we wanted to be here."
They also said the crowds haven't brought the boost in business they expected.
"You would imagine a big line like this would boost local foot traffic, but surprisingly we've sold virtually nothing to the queuing crowd," they said. "It's impossible to know the direct impact, but we've noticed a little slump in sales since the pop-up opened. Nothing drastic, but we'll definitely be keeping a close eye on it over the coming month."
"The pop-up has been fine, the staff has been very nice, and they are doing their best," he told EVG. "But any pop-up line, or any line that blocks another business, is not great for business, and causes stress. So it's all tricky."
A staff member at John Derian added: "We love Bonnie and are sorry to hear what happened."
Will Morgan, owner of Ideal Glass Studios, where the pop-up is taking place, said he regretted "the way it turned out for all concerned."
Morgan, who was not present during the confrontation, questioned Slotnick's roughly six hours in police custody while acknowledging that he could not assess what happened between her and the security worker. (She spent 12 hours in custody between the 9th Precinct and Manhattan Central Booking, with a stop at Bellevue Hospital.)
"To keep Ms. Slotnick in custody for some six hours seems over-reactive, but since I wasn't there, I can't honestly assess what went down," he said.
Morgan defended the event staff's crowd-control record at Ideal Glass and said he intends to speak with Slotnick.
"I look forward to meeting with Ms. Slotnick and addressing her concerns," he said. "Harry Styles has an overwhelming appeal to his fans, but I doubt we will have such an enormous turnout for our future events." (Past events included a three-day merch pop-up for Rush during the band's MSG stint.)
EVG also spoke with a member of the Harry Styles management team, who declined to comment on the record.
The Together Together pop-up is scheduled to continue through Nov. 1.
For at least a few of them, the issue isn't the presence of Harry Styles fans so much as what happens when hundreds of them spend hours waiting outside businesses that are trying to conduct an ordinary day on Second Street.
Previously on EV Grieve:





37 comments:
She was standing, not for the first time, where I park my bike, which is attached to the railing of the building. And she wouldn't move. I asked her to move again. She threw her hands up and said, "I don't talk to you."
What the f*** ever happened to common courtesy and being kind. All that could have been avoided was just a simple question 'Oh do you work here or are you the owner?' Excuse yourself and step aside.
Why must there be lines? Can’t appointments be booked online? Show up at your designated time, you have 40 minutes to shop. No crowds, no lines. Galleries do it this way, why can’t stores adopt it?
One way to alleviate this nonsense would be to replace the cement sidewalk outside the pop-up with quick sand. And then film it as the patrons on line attempt to enter the storefront. It would make for great comedy
I think there were previous incidents precipitating this.
1:55 That is a great idea!
That pop-up facade feels like something out of a dystopian horror film. A creepily cheery design promising "It's All Waiting There for You" - luring tender young people into a soylent green meat grinder.
It sucks, I live around the corner and it's disgusting...
The other store owners could go along the line, introduce themselves and let the people know about their stores and what they are selling. Maybe hand out a flier with a small discount if they have a receipt from the pop up. The entire line is made up of customers just waiting to happen, but you have to organize and engage with them. It seems like the store owner is going to keep doing this type of thing, so they should try to take advantage of it instead of fight it every chance they get.
I think clearly I am overdue for a little spree at Bonnie’s, Salter House and John Derian. Stupid lines be damned!
If it wasn’t bad enough, now Harry’ Style’s American Express blackshirts are running around to the neighbors making false statements about a “knife” fight.
Exactly, great opportunity to make lemonade as it were.
I don't think these morons care about anything other than their cheap merch. Totally vacuous.
Should have just put in Greenwich or Murray Hill or Times Square. Keep these gormless tourists out of proper neighborhoods.
Do you remember standing in like nes outside of clubs, or waiting to get into a venue for a rick or punk show? I think that sense of being with others who are excited about the same thing is part of the experience for these young people just as it was for geezers like myself back in the day.
when does a pop up stop being a pop up one that goes for months seems more like a sub-let situation 3 days is tolerable 2 months is a disruption of lives for the betterment of not those imposed upon
New Yorkers love to complain. 2 street will be back to its normal pleasant block soon enough. The Kids are Alright.
What I don't understand is, why is there even a need for a pop-up store? Why can't they just sell their merchandise on the web like any normal business these days?
This reminds me of the food lines during the days of the Soviet Union, when, if a person saw a line, they immediately would jump in - whether they knew what what being sold or not.
What we are seeing these days is just stupid American FOMO consumerism on display.
This great reporting, thank you Stacie Joy!
"She asked what they could do to make things smooth for us on the block, and I told her they could start by not arresting one of my neighbors." -- that's fantastic, Ergot rules
Andrew is a good dude - go see him and buy some vinyl!!
Why is this in a residential neighborhood with small business retail? We have plenty of areas better suited for long lines like this in NYC. If Harry Styles is doing this for cache, go out to some warehouse in Bushwick and leave these people be.
Whenever this topic comes up there are so many galaxy brain commenters who seem to believe that people in the market for one very specific thing (Harry Styles merch) must also be in the market for all sorts of other stuff (cookbooks, for example). I don’t see any reason whatsoever to believe pop up shop customers shop that way, and all of the other businesses on the street already have signage and window displays that show what they offer. Try listening to actual business owners rather than coming up with nonsense.
“Rew said another representative stopped by a few days later and again asked what could be done to improve things for neighboring businesses.”
Chef’s kiss. It is absolutely perfect that these pop-up clods don’t talk to one another and don’t seem to have even *considered* talking to one another about their half-arsed, ineffectual neighborhood outreach. If I was going to write a sketch satirizing pop-up shop dinguses a) I would absolutely have them do this and b) it would probably look a lot like the Publizity sketches from the Kroll Show.
Standing in line to see a punk band and standing in line to buy mass-produced merch for a mass market pop star aren’t analogous. The latter is the most dead-basic, commonplace, unsophisticated type of consumerism anyone can take part in.
I too live around the corner and the line goes past my building. Have also worked in events. I too could certainly do without the long lines but on the other hand it is certainly a long happy and courteous line. The team is very professional and if there is one thing I know about big event production you have to get police involved, otherwise lawsuits. Seems like it is more about the police's reaction and escalating it, let's be real if they were younger cops in particular they aren't known for diplomacy as the old school local cops were. Not a Harry follower but I have been impressed with the voter registration outreach his people have been doing on the lines. On the other hand do they really need three spaces in the neighborhood to sell merch with the long lines at every one? There is also one on Great Jones and another for more expensive stuff on Broadway. Guess you don't get the social media coverage without the lines but they could have an appointment system easily.
Right. An independent shop owner is going to leave their store unattended so they can walk down a line and hand out coupons. Got it.
Pretty sure the big sign in front of Bonnie's store that says "COOKBOOKS" makes it pretty clear what she sells.
@11:15- Sounds like you just described the lowlife Canal St vendors.
If any of you grouchy old New Yorkers did your research, this particular popup wasn’t solely a merch shop. They had an immersive, themed experience as well. I went, didn’t spend anything. Just had fun taking pictures. The only thing worse than a tourist in New York is a New Yorker who thinks they are above everyone else. A smart, savvy business owner on this street would get creative and take advantage of the increased audience. Just because it’s not fun or interesting to you doesn’t mean it shouldn’t take place.
Bless your heart. Harry Styles' merch machine couldn't get a nickel out of you but a smart, savvy should just get creative and take advantage! You got your MBA from Stern, eh?
Only someone who works in marketing would use phrasing like “immersive, themed experience.” What exactly does that mean with regard to this pop-up? Branded backdrops for taking selfies and music playing in the background? Key Foods has that too and no one calls it an immersive themed experience. This whole mess and the defenses of it from people like you have only deepened my conviction that marketing people are uniquely off-putting and vacuous about their own grasping careerism.
Oooooh, it was immersive, that changes everything!
You're framing this as tourists vs. NYC old-timers but I wouldn't classify the line-standers as tourists per se. I mean yes, technically they are likely from out of town, but the “tourist” generally visits a city to *tour* its sites and experiences and culture, not to slowly move fifteen inches forward every five minutes on a random residential block (as nice as 2nd Street may be).
And we heard you the first time when you suggested these extremely niche high-end business owners start handing out discount flyers to the pop-up line. Like I don't know him but that doesn't seem like a "smart and savvy" use of John Derian's time, lol
Is this popup even legal? Seems like local zoning laws and regulations would restrict this sort of pop up store signage. It just doesn’t seem to fit in with the local character of the block
Call me a geezer, because that’s what I am. But didn’t the whole point of “merch” used to be having a souvenir of a show you had actually seen, a thing you had actually done or a place you had actually visited? One that carried some personal
meaning or memory? If you were the thoughtful type, perhaps something you brought back as a gift for a friend or family member who could not be there? Or maybe a way to display your esoteric taste or support up-and-coming artists? Just trying to understand the point of waiting in line for mass produced items being sold by the tens of thousands for two months. Let me add, I’ve got nothing against Mr. Styles and admire his considerable talents and apparently good manners.
The kids love their merch these days! I would guess >90% of the people in that line also went to see Harry Styles in concert during his recent residency.
The merch lines at concerts these days are insane! They may have actually saved time waiting in the crazy pop-up line.
Concert merch has been big business since they started selling Grateful Dead T-shirts 60 years ago. Marketing executives realized there's gold in them thar hills and it was off to the races. Instagram is the steroids to fuel the operation. Collectables and trinkets and all sorts of shits have around since ancient times. It's big business but really nothing new.
Thanks for the added insight XTC and Mr. Nice Guy. (I bought my first concert t-shirt more than 50 years ago, and it likely cost more than the show ticket!) In light of this new info, I hope the purchasers get to enjoy wearing those shirts until they are nearly threadbare, then hand them down to their teens to wear, as I did. As for the other "collectibles", most of mine are either in dusty cardboard boxes taking up precious closet space, or donated long ago to Housing Works.
How many
Insta selfie stations are required to make it an immersive experience.
That is,
If the
Concerts they attended were not
Immersive
Enough?
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