Friday, July 16, 2010
East Fifth Street is turning into a Ghost Town ... or Goat's Town (with a $75 entree!)
Hey, meet Sophie's new neighbor! One more item from last night's CB3/SLA space... courtesy of Thomas Garry's reporting at Eater.
The committee said OK to an eatery for the former Le Tableau/Seymour Burton/Butcher Bay space .... tentatively titled Ghost Town.
Hmmm... if that name holds up, then I can't wait to walk by when the place is empty and say, Ghost Town is a ghost town now!
[Waiting to get booed]
Uh, anyway, Ghost Town?! The way I like it!
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[UPDATE]: Grub Street has more details. And GS says the name of the joint will be Goat's Town! Not Ghost Town. Hmm. Nick Morgenstern of the General Greene in Brooklyn is behind the place. "He plans to open an eleven-table restaurant called Goat's Town in late October that will serve "continental" cuisine, and there’ll be at least one $75 entrĂ©e, as a board member pointed out to assuage one neighbor's fears that the place would attract a loud and rowdy crowd."
So, maybe a selection from Goats Head Soup is in order?
Amato Opera's future: theater, restaurant... and magicians?
More details are being reported from last night's CB3/SLA meeting, which I couldn't attend because of a work commitment ... the Lo-Down and Eater were there.
The owners behind the V Bars were approved to open a "bar/restaurant/theater experience" in the former Amato Opera on the Bowery. Eater's Thomas Garry reports, "The owners said the concept, which is at least a year from completion, would call for a 100-seat theater showcasing work from various theater troupes, and possibly other entertainment like magicians." Meanwhile, the second-floor would house a 70-seat restaurant/bar for pre- and post-show diners/drinkers.
Previously on EV Grieve:
Food OK now at the former Amato Opera
International Bar OK'd to take over Lilly Coogan's space
The Lo-Down attended last night's CB3/SLA meeting, and filed a quick report... two items to note first:
The committee voted against a transfer application for Sin Sin. "Numerous residents spoke out against the bar/night club, saying it’s a magnet for a rowdy crowd, drug dealing and violent incidents," according to the Lo-Down.
And!
The International folks got the OK for a license to take over the now-shuttered Lilly Coogan's space on First Avenue.
More on all this later...
Previously on EV Grieve:
International Bar owners taking over Lilly Coogan's
East Village noise wars new battlefront: Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge
New school in East Village will cost upwards of $31,000 annually
As you may have heard, the World Class Learning Academy is taking over the LaSalle Academy space on Second Street and Second Avenue... It's a U.K.-based independent school (rich kid's school) for ages 3 to 11. (The old LaSalle space is currently getting spruced up...)
An EV Grieve reader asked if I had seen the tuition for the school.
I had not.
Tuition for 2010/2011 School Year, payable in two installments:
Foundation Stage 1 (Pre-K 3/Nursery), Half Day: $14,000
Foundation Stage 1 (Pre-K 3/Nursery), Full Day: $22,500
Foundation Stage 2 (Pre-K 4/Reception): $25,500
Years 1-6 (Kindergarten-Grade 5): $31,900
Noted the reader: "It's like a pre-K for NYU Dubai."
By the way, LaSalle, which has had 160 years of presence on the Lower East Side, is moving into part of St. George Ukrainian Catholic School on Sixth Street.
Previously on EV Grieve:
Blimey!: World Class Learning Academy takes over La Salle Academy space on Second Street
Guest post: The day the music died
Here's a little something different for today...a guest post...
By Larry Koestler
I grew up in Stuyvesant Town and lived there for 27 of my 29 years, and so as you might imagine, I am (or was) rather well-versed in the nightlife offerings of Avenues A, B and C.
However, age, relationships and maturity have significantly curtailed late-night group outings, and so I haven’t gone out here with any regularity in some time. Which is why I was incredibly sad to discover that The Musical Box (formerly at 219 Avenue B between 13th and 14th Streets) has closed, and has apparently been that way since the end of April.
My friends and I discovered Musical Box in 2003. Like most people, we weren’t even sure what it was from the outside, given the lack of signage and mysterious curtains completely shrouding the interior.
Thankfully, we went on in anyway, and it was pretty much love at first sight. The first thing one noticed upon entering the Box was the generously sized and dimly lit front bar room, with a reasonable-if-not-great beer selection, and fair prices.
But the real reason the Box became my go-to bar over the last seven years was actually not the alcohol selection, but the layout, design aesthetic, overall relaxed mood and almost zen-like vibe of the bar. In addition to the lengthy front bar area, Musical Box boasted an even more generously sized second room in the back, filled with more hideous-but-comfortable old couches than the eye could see. With the exception of certain times on Friday and Saturday nights seating was seldom a problem; a trait few bars can claim.
Of all of the bars I’ve ever been to, The Musical Box was my absolute favorite. I celebrated several birthdays, Halloweens and countless other occasions at the bar over the years; loved to go during the week when there wasn’t a soul to be found; and even during the weekend when it was slightly more crowded with clueless fools who only showed up because they heard it was the latest hot spot.
Any time a friend wanted to meet up for a drink, Musical Box was almost always our default destination. And most important for me, I took my future wife to The Musical Box on our very first date, and we even ended up featuring a photo of the now-destroyed mural on the brick wall of the patio on our Save-the-Date — I can’t imagine there are many other people who went on a first date at Musical Box and ended up marrying that person.
Unfortunately, the unloyal crowds — who helped annoyingly clog the lines for the two unisex bathrooms — that started swarming the place after word got out around 2005-2006 would most likely end up being its death knell.
While I haven’t read anything definitive as to why Musical Box actually closed — although the conspiracy theorist in me thinks it may have something to do with the ugly new condo building that’s been under construction directly next door for the past few years — there was a noticeable decline in attendance during the past few years. Though nothing makes me happier than a completely empty bar that my friends and I have all to ourselves, it’s also rather hard for a drinking establishment to continue to exist when it doesn’t receive enough patrons.
And so while I knew this day would eventually come, it doesn’t make it hurt any less. So here’s to you Musical Box: Thank you for providing a relaxing drinking venue in a city full of frenetic, overcrowded and painfully loud bars; countless memories; and for playing a pivotal role in my personal life. You’ll be missed, and most likely never replaced.
Larry Koestler is the former author of This Is What We Do Now, a humor blog about twentysomething life in New York City, and currently blogs about the Yankees at Yankeeist. He can be contacted at larry at koestlermedia dot com.
Chico photo via Flickr.
By Larry Koestler
I grew up in Stuyvesant Town and lived there for 27 of my 29 years, and so as you might imagine, I am (or was) rather well-versed in the nightlife offerings of Avenues A, B and C.
However, age, relationships and maturity have significantly curtailed late-night group outings, and so I haven’t gone out here with any regularity in some time. Which is why I was incredibly sad to discover that The Musical Box (formerly at 219 Avenue B between 13th and 14th Streets) has closed, and has apparently been that way since the end of April.
My friends and I discovered Musical Box in 2003. Like most people, we weren’t even sure what it was from the outside, given the lack of signage and mysterious curtains completely shrouding the interior.
Thankfully, we went on in anyway, and it was pretty much love at first sight. The first thing one noticed upon entering the Box was the generously sized and dimly lit front bar room, with a reasonable-if-not-great beer selection, and fair prices.
But the real reason the Box became my go-to bar over the last seven years was actually not the alcohol selection, but the layout, design aesthetic, overall relaxed mood and almost zen-like vibe of the bar. In addition to the lengthy front bar area, Musical Box boasted an even more generously sized second room in the back, filled with more hideous-but-comfortable old couches than the eye could see. With the exception of certain times on Friday and Saturday nights seating was seldom a problem; a trait few bars can claim.
Of all of the bars I’ve ever been to, The Musical Box was my absolute favorite. I celebrated several birthdays, Halloweens and countless other occasions at the bar over the years; loved to go during the week when there wasn’t a soul to be found; and even during the weekend when it was slightly more crowded with clueless fools who only showed up because they heard it was the latest hot spot.
Any time a friend wanted to meet up for a drink, Musical Box was almost always our default destination. And most important for me, I took my future wife to The Musical Box on our very first date, and we even ended up featuring a photo of the now-destroyed mural on the brick wall of the patio on our Save-the-Date — I can’t imagine there are many other people who went on a first date at Musical Box and ended up marrying that person.
Unfortunately, the unloyal crowds — who helped annoyingly clog the lines for the two unisex bathrooms — that started swarming the place after word got out around 2005-2006 would most likely end up being its death knell.
While I haven’t read anything definitive as to why Musical Box actually closed — although the conspiracy theorist in me thinks it may have something to do with the ugly new condo building that’s been under construction directly next door for the past few years — there was a noticeable decline in attendance during the past few years. Though nothing makes me happier than a completely empty bar that my friends and I have all to ourselves, it’s also rather hard for a drinking establishment to continue to exist when it doesn’t receive enough patrons.
And so while I knew this day would eventually come, it doesn’t make it hurt any less. So here’s to you Musical Box: Thank you for providing a relaxing drinking venue in a city full of frenetic, overcrowded and painfully loud bars; countless memories; and for playing a pivotal role in my personal life. You’ll be missed, and most likely never replaced.
Larry Koestler is the former author of This Is What We Do Now, a humor blog about twentysomething life in New York City, and currently blogs about the Yankees at Yankeeist. He can be contacted at larry at koestlermedia dot com.
Chico photo via Flickr.
Another lost Elm tree in Tompkins Square Park
Earlier this week, I noted one of the trees that had to be cut down in Tompkins Square Park because of Dutch Elm Disease...
In addition this past week, workers had to remove the one in the photo below at the Park entrance on Eighth Street and Avenue B...
It's gone.
...even the roots had to be removed to help prevent the spread of the Dutch Elm...
And now...
In addition this past week, workers had to remove the one in the photo below at the Park entrance on Eighth Street and Avenue B...
It's gone.
...even the roots had to be removed to help prevent the spread of the Dutch Elm...
And now...
Stalled-project lot on East 13th Street gets partial makeover
Hey, that stalled-project lot at 536 E. 13th Street near Avenue B is for sale...
...and now there's a new fence here...
...and the lot has also been groomed....(a little)
Before!
Now!
So either:
A) The owner is making the lot look more pretty for a potential buyer or...
B) The lot was sold and the new owner is now sprucing it up...
Previously on EV Grieve:
Your chance to own a stalled project lot on East 13th Street
A dormant construction site on East 13th Street
...and now there's a new fence here...
...and the lot has also been groomed....(a little)
Before!
Now!
So either:
A) The owner is making the lot look more pretty for a potential buyer or...
B) The lot was sold and the new owner is now sprucing it up...
Previously on EV Grieve:
Your chance to own a stalled project lot on East 13th Street
A dormant construction site on East 13th Street
Thursday, July 15, 2010
Reminders tonight: Sweet CB3/SLA action!
Sadly, I won't be able to attend tonight's CB3/SLA meeting... and many things to monitor on the docket...
Such as a liquor license transfer for Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge...
And... A few more highlights....
Sidewalk Cafe Applications
-- The Penny Farthing, 103 3rd Ave
-- The 13th Step, 149 2nd Ave
Alterations/Transfers/Upgrades
-- Mama Bar LLC, 34 Ave B (alt/op/expand to basement space)
New Liquor License Applications
-- Justified LLC, 102 1st Ave (op) (Lilly Coogan's) — from the good people behind the International
-- Tin Lizard LLC, 511 E 5th St (rw) (Butcher Bay)
-- Vbar Amato (Vbar2 LLC), 319 Bowery (op) — The old Amato Opera
The meeting is at 6:30 p.m. at the JASA/Green Residence - 200 E. Fifth St. at the Bowery. Bring a six-pack!
Please let me know if you happen to attend and want to share a few highlights...
Such as a liquor license transfer for Sin Sin/Leopard Lounge...
And... A few more highlights....
Sidewalk Cafe Applications
-- The Penny Farthing, 103 3rd Ave
-- The 13th Step, 149 2nd Ave
Alterations/Transfers/Upgrades
-- Mama Bar LLC, 34 Ave B (alt/op/expand to basement space)
New Liquor License Applications
-- Justified LLC, 102 1st Ave (op) (Lilly Coogan's) — from the good people behind the International
-- Tin Lizard LLC, 511 E 5th St (rw) (Butcher Bay)
-- Vbar Amato (Vbar2 LLC), 319 Bowery (op) — The old Amato Opera
The meeting is at 6:30 p.m. at the JASA/Green Residence - 200 E. Fifth St. at the Bowery. Bring a six-pack!
Please let me know if you happen to attend and want to share a few highlights...
Today's sign of the apocalypse
The above photo is from Eater, who noted that today marked the grand opening of the TGI Friday's on Union Square.
EV Grieve Etc: Mourning Edition
A serving of fauxstalgia (Jeremiah's Vanishing NY)
Setting boundaries for the LES/Chinatown (The Lo-Down)
NYC is due for a hurricane (Runnin' Scared)
A ghost memorial for Harry Wieder (GammaBlog)
206 Bowery out of danger yet? (BoweryBoogie)
Flaming Pablum turns 5! (Flaming Pablum)
Cheetah and Syl hit the road (Punk Turns 30)
Street art vendors take it to court (The Villager)
Plan ahead for the Collect LES Art Crawl on July 22 (ArtLog)
From the NYPD Daily Blotter in the Post today:
An FDNY paramedic helped cops nab a group of thugs who robbed and roughed up a cabby in the East Village yesterday, authorities said. Lt. Jim Scordus was one of several on-duty EMTs near the corner of Second Avenue and East Seventh Street just before 3:30 a.m. when they saw the four goons get in a scuffle with the 50-year-old driver.
All four fled, and Scordus took off after them in his truck. He radioed to police and kept an eye on the suspects until cops arrived. David Forest, 23, Carl Muraco, 22, Chad LaForest, 21 and Nicholas Menardy, 22, were nabbed and charged with robbery.
And a belated thanks to New York magazine for mentioning the German pride parade in the Neighborhood News section...
And, one more time...
Ray's now has a three-year lease
A friendly neighborhood tipster passed along some good news from Ray's Candy Store: Ray has signed a new three-year-lease. (Previously, he had been on a month-to-month arrangement.) According to the tipster, the rent will go up each year ... "and of course a deed in hand does not a monthly payment make, but it ought to give the 'hood some hope... right?"
Yes!
[Photo of Ray via Slum Goddess]
We'll always have Le Souk
The last time I looked inside former Avenue B menace Le Souk, the place looked as if it had become a supply closet...
Meanwhile, a tipster notes that work appears to be happening inside and outside the space... though there are no permits on file with the DOB
And! The tipster asks, Why are people always coming out of Le Souk at 4, 5, 6 a.m.?
Just the like good ol' days...
Meanwhile, a tipster notes that work appears to be happening inside and outside the space... though there are no permits on file with the DOB
And! The tipster asks, Why are people always coming out of Le Souk at 4, 5, 6 a.m.?
Just the like good ol' days...
Superdive not going 5 for 5 this CB3/SLA meeting
So, you know tonight is the July meeting for the CB3/SLA folks.
Meanwhile, for the first time in four months, Superdive is not on the CB3/SLA agenda for a transfer, alteration, etc. They were on the docket then scratched each time.
However! A trusted source says Superdive will be on the August CB3/SLA docket for an alteration. Unless they bow out. Again.
Previously on EV Grieve:
Another month, another Superdive scratch; Plus, Avenue A bars give it another go tonight
2 Cooper Square is growing up right before our eyes!
Oh, it just seems like yesterday over on Fourth Street and the Bowery...
But construction has been going on, for what, 14 months now?
Anyway! Another day, another milestone! We have more 2 Cooper branding and what may be the main doors!
...and the claw thingee that will one day provide shelter to those hitting their 20K apartments...
...though it's not an entrance for construction workers...
...oh, and temporary sidewalks!
Race you to the pool!
But construction has been going on, for what, 14 months now?
Anyway! Another day, another milestone! We have more 2 Cooper branding and what may be the main doors!
...and the claw thingee that will one day provide shelter to those hitting their 20K apartments...
...though it's not an entrance for construction workers...
...oh, and temporary sidewalks!
Race you to the pool!
Own a Sixth Street apartment building; be a mean landlord
Oh, it has been some time since we looked into any real estate around here... This listing for a building on Sixth Street between Avenue B and Avenue C hit the market last market...
(Check out the Puma painting on the wall!)
Per the listing:
Price: $3.3 million
(Check out the Puma painting on the wall!)
Per the listing:
Investment opportunity! Raise below market rents to fair market value. A 20' wide x 50' long 4 story, 4,000sqft (approximately) 4 unit walk-up apartment building. The ground floor unit is live/work/store with a store front entrance and an entrance from the building. This unit has a beautiful 750 sqft south facing garden. The 2nd floor unit is a 2 bedroom, 1 bath with a 250 sqft south facing terrace. It has Southern, western and northern exposures. The 3rd floor unit is a 3 bedroom 1.5 bath home with southern, western, and northern exposures. The 4th floor unit is a 2 bedroom, 1 bath home with skylights, 3 exposures and a beautiful stair case. The building is fully renovated with new kitchens, baths, windows, floors, washer/dryers, etc. The gross yearly rent is approximately $164,000 a year. Tenants leases can be terminated with three months notice.
Price: $3.3 million
Craft beer shop coming to East Ninth Street
There's a CB3/SLA meeting tonight and I still haven't written about all the approvals from last month... During last month's get-together, the committee OK'd a beer license for Good Beer to operate at 422 E. Ninth St. between Avenue A and First Avenue...
Good Beer received a blessing from the 9th Street Block Association... and there are some stipulations: GB will operate as a retail beer store, serving food during all hours of operation; the hours will be 11 a.m. to 10 p.m. Monday through Saturdays, and noon to 8 p.m. on Sundays. And there won't be any standing bar or stools or DJs or club crap.
But there will be some tables inside for a few beers and food.
Chris O'Leary at Brew York, New York has some details:
The store is expecting to open in late August/early September.
[Thanks to Neighborhoodr for the link]
Good Beer received a blessing from the 9th Street Block Association... and there are some stipulations: GB will operate as a retail beer store, serving food during all hours of operation; the hours will be 11 a.m. to 10 p.m. Monday through Saturdays, and noon to 8 p.m. on Sundays. And there won't be any standing bar or stools or DJs or club crap.
But there will be some tables inside for a few beers and food.
Chris O'Leary at Brew York, New York has some details:
"Food will be comprised of local, organic and heritage products that pair well with beer so cheese, cured meats, pretzels, hot dogs, nuts and some chocolates," says David Cichowicz, the brain behind the operation. Patrons will have the chance to grab a seat at one of the tables in the store and pair the food with some of the 12 beers they’ll have on tap. The beer selection will be mainly local, sustainable products, but David says they'll occasionally throw in some West Coast, Belgian, English, and German beers as well."
The store is expecting to open in late August/early September.
[Thanks to Neighborhoodr for the link]
Wednesday, July 14, 2010
FDNY IDs cause of 240 E. Houston blaze
According to multiple published reports (the Times, DNAinfo, NY1) Thursday's fire was caused by the "unapproved use of electrical wiring," according to a fire official, who explained that residents had extended various cords to the roof, and stretched wires beneath roofing materials.
And this is the shot the FDNY released:
Twenty-eight firefighters and civilians were injured in the fire, the Times reported.
Previously.
[Bottom photo via the FDNY]
An East Second Street now and then
Earlier today, I posted several photos from Brian Rose's new book on the Lower East Side from 1980 and today...
Thanks to EV Grieve reader AdamA for pointing out a pretty good Google Street View approximation of one of the photos...
East Second Street where it merges with Houston between Avenue C and Avenue D
And via Google... a Street View that is at least two years old... the corner of Houston and Avenue D has been razed. Still.
Previously on EV Grieve:
"A continuum of decay and rebirth" on the Lower East Side
Thanks to EV Grieve reader AdamA for pointing out a pretty good Google Street View approximation of one of the photos...
East Second Street where it merges with Houston between Avenue C and Avenue D
And via Google... a Street View that is at least two years old... the corner of Houston and Avenue D has been razed. Still.
Previously on EV Grieve:
"A continuum of decay and rebirth" on the Lower East Side
"A continuum of decay and rebirth" on the Lower East Side
In 1980, Brian Rose, in collaboration with fellow Cooper Union graduate Ed Fausty, photographed the Lower East Side during what he called "its darkest, but most creative moment. While buildings crumbled and burned, artists and musicians came to explore and express the edgy quality of the place."
After the project was completed and exhibited in 1981, it remained unseen in Rose's archive. And Rose moved on, working on various projects while living in Amsterdam for 15 years.
Rose revisited the streets of the Lower East Side with his camera some three decades later. Rose has put together "Time and Space on the Lower East Side," a self-published book contrasting the LES in 1980 with today. However, as he notes in the book's description:
He told me that the project is still looking for a publisher and exhibition venue. In the meantime, the book is available for purchase on Blurb.
Rose shared a few of the 1980 images with me....
East Second Street where it merges with Houston between Avenue C and Avenue D
On East Fifth Street between C and D. Rose was standing near Fourth Street
On the Bowery looking north toward East Fifth Street — now JASA/Cooper Square Senior Housing and the Cooper Square Hotel
The Jefferson Theatre on 14th Street between Second Avenue and Third Avenue (now the Mystery Lot)
Details:
Brian Rose Photography
Preview and buy the book via Blurb.
After the project was completed and exhibited in 1981, it remained unseen in Rose's archive. And Rose moved on, working on various projects while living in Amsterdam for 15 years.
Rose revisited the streets of the Lower East Side with his camera some three decades later. Rose has put together "Time and Space on the Lower East Side," a self-published book contrasting the LES in 1980 with today. However, as he notes in the book's description:
"From the outset it was clear that this would not be a simple before/after take on the neighborhood. While keeping an eye on the earlier photographs done in 1980, I wanted to rediscover the place with fresh eyes, with the perspective of time, change, and history. The result, still being added to, is a set of photographs that looks backward and forward, that posits the idea that places are not simply “then and now,” but exist in a continuum of decay and rebirth."
He told me that the project is still looking for a publisher and exhibition venue. In the meantime, the book is available for purchase on Blurb.
Rose shared a few of the 1980 images with me....
East Second Street where it merges with Houston between Avenue C and Avenue D
On East Fifth Street between C and D. Rose was standing near Fourth Street
On the Bowery looking north toward East Fifth Street — now JASA/Cooper Square Senior Housing and the Cooper Square Hotel
The Jefferson Theatre on 14th Street between Second Avenue and Third Avenue (now the Mystery Lot)
Details:
Brian Rose Photography
Preview and buy the book via Blurb.
[Updated] Proposed Bowery eateries make their pitch to CB2 (retractable patio roof alert!)
Two new Bowery hopefuls went before the CB2/SLA Board last night in the NYU Silver Building on Waverly Place. Final verdicts will be (I think!) released later this week... Here are two proposed restaurants of particular interest:
[Photo via BoweryBoogie]
1) 264 Bowery.
Before sitting empty for a few years, 264 Bowery was home to the Lenny Kravitz-Denzel Washington-backed bold-faced-named club Kos. As New York magazine noted, Kos had a plush room dubbed the "Kitty Box," where the likes of Bruce Willis, P. Diddy and Steven Tyler could hobnob. So it was loud and exclusive.
Anyway! The six principals aiming to open an eatery here are well-aware of the noisy past at this address. Which is why the group said they'd be a "neighborhood-friendly restaurant" and "we want to be open to our neighbors." And no velvet ropes! The concept: "Seasonal tapas." And they'd be open 5 p.m. to 2 a.m. Sunday-Thursday; 5 p.m.-3:30 a.m. Friday and Saturday. The place would seat 48, with another 13 at the bar. The group hasn't decided on a name yet. The current working name is Bowery Row.
Three of the principals were on hand for the presentation. They were asked about the hours. They said they wouldn't want to open earlier because there isn't any foot traffic and no one around who'd want to eat. Someone near me suggested the crowds at the New Museum may have another opinion about that. Another person said the people working at the nearby restaurant supply companies may like to have another lunch option. And they'd need to be open late because something about their kind of "seasonal tapas" was the food that groups of four to six would be ordering.
Later, one of the principals mentioned being a destination. But wait, don't you want to be "neighborhood friendly?" He corrected himself, sort of: A neighborhood-friendly destination place.
Several nearby residents spoke out against more noise and bargoers on the Bowery. One resident singled out Keith McNally, saying that he got a free pass from CB2 with Pulino's. McNally promised a neighborhood friendly restaurant. And he put Bar first in the name: Pulino's Bar & Pizzeria.
So, the bottom line (paraphrasing), don't be hoodwinked by slicksters who promise to be neighborhood friendly.
(BoweryBoogie has more on 264 Bowery here.)
2) 348 Bowery
I wrote about this yesterday... I was wrong on a few details, though the proposal is for the first New York branch of Segafredo Zanetti Espresso Café, the Italian-style coffee bar.
I was wrong about the Alexander Duff involved with the proposed cafe. This Alexander Duff, it turns out, was the co-owner of Pacific East in Amagansett and later in Chelsea. (You can read how all that turned out here.) He has partnered with Holly Roberts, who also spoke before CB2. She is involved with High Bar andAspen Social Club, among others.
So!
This is proposed for the current home of Downtown Auto and Tire, which is now on a month-to-month lease.
This would be a Segafredo franchise open starting at 7 a.m., closing at midnight on weekdays; 2 a.m. on weekends. The cafe would hold 74, with another 16 in a patio roughly where the tires are kept now, as it was rather sadly/comically pointed out.
And the best part: The patio will have a retractable roof with soundproofing ... and sound-resistant sliding doors for the later evening hours. Roberts said that have state-of-the-art soundproofing, installed not by the best soundproof engineer in New York City, but in the entire country.
Said Roberts, "We are not a bar. We are not a nightclub. We are a cafe." She also described it as "a walk-up space. We don't anticipate people coming up in cabs." It will be like a cafe that you see in an Italian piazza, she said.
In any event, Roberts said that they were there with open arms, very willing to be flexible in their operating plans. They want to be good neighbors.
There was plenty of opposition. CB2 regular Zella Jones, a Bleecker Street resident who founded the NoHo/Bowery Partnership, presented a petition against the cafe signed by 148 residents representing 88 addresses in the immediate area. Jones noted that there will be 27 full liquor licenses (including four for the Great Jones Hotel) within 500 feet of this space. She also pointed out the six coffee shops in close proximity.
A gifted speaker, Jones talked about the changing composition of the neighborhood, how it has become a "party atmosphere." She made reference to a previous speaker who called the Bowery "a strip." "It's not a strip, it's a neighborhood." And as for the suggestion that the Downtown Auto and Tire Club was "junky" (that comment was made by someone from the New York Nightlife Association), "We like that garage. We use that garage. The garage reminds us of what was." And later, "We are losing our businesses that don't serve alcohol."
Like 264 Bowery, residents can't help but wonder if the proposed cafe will turn out, in the end, to just be another bar.
Wondered Jones: Why would a cafe need a retractable roof and soundproofing?
Update:
Grub Street also has coverage of last night's CB2 meeting.
The board rejected plans for both proposed Bowery eateries. Also, as GS notes, the two dudes who spoke last night for 264 Bowery are managers at the MercBar.
This is what happens when you fall asleep in the back of the room.
[Photo via BoweryBoogie]
1) 264 Bowery.
Before sitting empty for a few years, 264 Bowery was home to the Lenny Kravitz-Denzel Washington-backed bold-faced-named club Kos. As New York magazine noted, Kos had a plush room dubbed the "Kitty Box," where the likes of Bruce Willis, P. Diddy and Steven Tyler could hobnob. So it was loud and exclusive.
Anyway! The six principals aiming to open an eatery here are well-aware of the noisy past at this address. Which is why the group said they'd be a "neighborhood-friendly restaurant" and "we want to be open to our neighbors." And no velvet ropes! The concept: "Seasonal tapas." And they'd be open 5 p.m. to 2 a.m. Sunday-Thursday; 5 p.m.-3:30 a.m. Friday and Saturday. The place would seat 48, with another 13 at the bar. The group hasn't decided on a name yet. The current working name is Bowery Row.
Three of the principals were on hand for the presentation. They were asked about the hours. They said they wouldn't want to open earlier because there isn't any foot traffic and no one around who'd want to eat. Someone near me suggested the crowds at the New Museum may have another opinion about that. Another person said the people working at the nearby restaurant supply companies may like to have another lunch option. And they'd need to be open late because something about their kind of "seasonal tapas" was the food that groups of four to six would be ordering.
Later, one of the principals mentioned being a destination. But wait, don't you want to be "neighborhood friendly?" He corrected himself, sort of: A neighborhood-friendly destination place.
Several nearby residents spoke out against more noise and bargoers on the Bowery. One resident singled out Keith McNally, saying that he got a free pass from CB2 with Pulino's. McNally promised a neighborhood friendly restaurant. And he put Bar first in the name: Pulino's Bar & Pizzeria.
So, the bottom line (paraphrasing), don't be hoodwinked by slicksters who promise to be neighborhood friendly.
(BoweryBoogie has more on 264 Bowery here.)
2) 348 Bowery
I wrote about this yesterday... I was wrong on a few details, though the proposal is for the first New York branch of Segafredo Zanetti Espresso Café, the Italian-style coffee bar.
I was wrong about the Alexander Duff involved with the proposed cafe. This Alexander Duff, it turns out, was the co-owner of Pacific East in Amagansett and later in Chelsea. (You can read how all that turned out here.) He has partnered with Holly Roberts, who also spoke before CB2. She is involved with High Bar andAspen Social Club, among others.
So!
This is proposed for the current home of Downtown Auto and Tire, which is now on a month-to-month lease.
This would be a Segafredo franchise open starting at 7 a.m., closing at midnight on weekdays; 2 a.m. on weekends. The cafe would hold 74, with another 16 in a patio roughly where the tires are kept now, as it was rather sadly/comically pointed out.
And the best part: The patio will have a retractable roof with soundproofing ... and sound-resistant sliding doors for the later evening hours. Roberts said that have state-of-the-art soundproofing, installed not by the best soundproof engineer in New York City, but in the entire country.
Said Roberts, "We are not a bar. We are not a nightclub. We are a cafe." She also described it as "a walk-up space. We don't anticipate people coming up in cabs." It will be like a cafe that you see in an Italian piazza, she said.
In any event, Roberts said that they were there with open arms, very willing to be flexible in their operating plans. They want to be good neighbors.
There was plenty of opposition. CB2 regular Zella Jones, a Bleecker Street resident who founded the NoHo/Bowery Partnership, presented a petition against the cafe signed by 148 residents representing 88 addresses in the immediate area. Jones noted that there will be 27 full liquor licenses (including four for the Great Jones Hotel) within 500 feet of this space. She also pointed out the six coffee shops in close proximity.
A gifted speaker, Jones talked about the changing composition of the neighborhood, how it has become a "party atmosphere." She made reference to a previous speaker who called the Bowery "a strip." "It's not a strip, it's a neighborhood." And as for the suggestion that the Downtown Auto and Tire Club was "junky" (that comment was made by someone from the New York Nightlife Association), "We like that garage. We use that garage. The garage reminds us of what was." And later, "We are losing our businesses that don't serve alcohol."
Like 264 Bowery, residents can't help but wonder if the proposed cafe will turn out, in the end, to just be another bar.
Wondered Jones: Why would a cafe need a retractable roof and soundproofing?
Update:
Grub Street also has coverage of last night's CB2 meeting.
The board rejected plans for both proposed Bowery eateries. Also, as GS notes, the two dudes who spoke last night for 264 Bowery are managers at the MercBar.
This is what happens when you fall asleep in the back of the room.
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