Pathetic. The sign should be a huge, glaring, "WRONG WAY. $100 FINE" or whatever. What's with the kid gloves approach the DOT is taking with these traffic offenders?
There are bright red WRONG WAY signs which are permanently attached to some street posts.
All your bitching and moaning about lack of enforcement (which is the responsibility of the NYPD) - and DOT tries to do something positive and gets more bitching about it.
The DOT can't fine you anyway so why are you so uptight about the wording on their (temporary) sign?
They really need to write this in Spanish or Chinese - I am a (safe) bicyclist and what I observe as the worst offenders are delivery guys (who tend to typically be Chinese or Latin from my observations).
The sign is clever, but I would prefer it to be effective.
The city could do a billion times better educating people on how to safely use the bike lanes. Someone needs to send the person in charge to Denmark or Holland to see how it's done.
I agree w/ Richard. Even if the delivery guys could read it, they're not going to get it, let alone follow it. A ticket, or just the hassle of being stopped by a cop, would make a difference.
i haven't seen the actual lawbook pertaining to who yields for who but I think it comes down to a few things. If you don't have the right of way ( green light) you just have to calm your energetic, cycling legs and stop for a sec. Don't try to sneak between the first gap in cars. You are impatient. There is no excuse for pedestrians not looking both ways before stepping into any street. Come on, your mother told you a hundred times. Wrong-wayers, if the distance seems to short for you to have to go around the block, then surely it is close enough to use your god-given legs to walk with the rest of the folks for a short bit. Finally, the cursing at each other. Goodness....
i thought it was trickle down - pedestrians always have right of way then bikes then cars (then spaceships i suppose...) yielding to the most vulnerable. as in, ouch...
@RBB - I only meant that adding more unnecessary signs just adds to the distractions we already have. I was keeping the interests of bikers in mind, thinking they need more to read while riding as much as drivers need a news ticker running along the inside of their windshield.
The DOT is attempting to address a problem that the NYPD doesn't seem willing to deal with properly or effectively. I'm glad to see the effort - and to be fair, if one little sentence here and there is enough to be a real distraction, that person probably shouldn't be riding a bike in downtown Manhattan, of all places.
It's hard to calm your little legs when you're on an electric bike that doesn't even need peddling. How those are moving vehicles yet completely unregulated is beyond me.
Good luck getting the delivery men on their electric bikes to abide by these rules . . . Their only rule is to get the food to the destination in the fastest way possible. Doesn't matter if they go the wrong way in a bike lane, on a street, or zip through sidewalks.
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Pathetic. The sign should be a huge, glaring, "WRONG WAY. $100 FINE" or whatever. What's with the kid gloves approach the DOT is taking with these traffic offenders?
anon -
There are bright red WRONG WAY signs which are permanently attached to some street posts.
All your bitching and moaning about lack of enforcement (which is the responsibility of the NYPD) - and DOT tries to do something positive and gets more bitching about it.
The DOT can't fine you anyway so why are you so uptight about the wording on their (temporary) sign?
They really need to write this in Spanish or Chinese - I am a (safe) bicyclist and what I observe as the worst offenders are delivery guys (who tend to typically be Chinese or Latin from my observations).
The sign is clever, but I would prefer it to be effective.
The city could do a billion times better educating people on how to safely use the bike lanes. Someone needs to send the person in charge to Denmark or Holland to see how it's done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEZv0FUPtcc
I agree w/ Richard. Even if the delivery guys could read it, they're not going to get it, let alone follow it. A ticket, or just the hassle of being stopped by a cop, would make a difference.
@WB
Ha."YOU ARE GOING THE WRONG WAY!"
More signs = more distractions = more dangerous.
i haven't seen the actual lawbook pertaining to who yields for who but I think it comes down to a few things. If you don't have the right of way ( green light) you just have to calm your energetic, cycling legs and stop for a sec. Don't try to sneak between the first gap in cars. You are impatient. There is no excuse for pedestrians not looking both ways before stepping into any street. Come on, your mother told you a hundred times. Wrong-wayers, if the distance seems to short for you to have to go around the block, then surely it is close enough to use your god-given legs to walk with the rest of the folks for a short bit. Finally, the cursing at each other. Goodness....
i thought it was trickle down - pedestrians always have right of way then bikes then cars (then spaceships i suppose...)
yielding to the most vulnerable.
as in, ouch...
I agree goggla - traffic lights are also a bit of a distraction, perhaps we should do away with those too.
@RBB - I only meant that adding more unnecessary signs just adds to the distractions we already have. I was keeping the interests of bikers in mind, thinking they need more to read while riding as much as drivers need a news ticker running along the inside of their windshield.
The DOT is attempting to address a problem that the NYPD doesn't seem willing to deal with properly or effectively. I'm glad to see the effort - and to be fair, if one little sentence here and there is enough to be a real distraction, that person probably shouldn't be riding a bike in downtown Manhattan, of all places.
@Anon,
It's hard to calm your little legs when you're on an electric bike that doesn't even need peddling. How those are moving vehicles yet completely unregulated is beyond me.
Good luck getting the delivery men on their electric bikes to abide by these rules . . . Their only rule is to get the food to the destination in the fastest way possible. Doesn't matter if they go the wrong way in a bike lane, on a street, or zip through sidewalks.
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