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Friday, July 5, 2013
Chico finishes his Ramones mural at Croxley Ales
As we first noted last Saturday, Chico was creating a mural of the Ramones on the gate at Croxley Ales...he wrapped his work earlier this week on Avenue B...
Chico is cool. The Ramone's were cool before corporate overexposure made them irrelevant. This, on the other hand is not cool. For an aggressively yuppie/jock bar to pay homage to the culture of the community they helped displace, is honestly kind of insulting and ironic.
When I'm feeling generous, I'll say that "Road to Ruin" was their last good album. If I'm feeling less generous, it was "Rocket to Russia". I don't think it was corporate overexposure that did them in (it didn't hurt other bands of that time, that survived), it was Johnny's unwillingness to change their uniform or musical arrangements.
What do you think John Cummings, blue collar guy from queens, who loved baseball and was a died hard conservative would have preferred Croxley or some overpriced faux-dive bar?
Love the Ramones, but this makes no sense. This establishment has no association with good music or east village legends. Kinda the opposite. Can't help but think they are trying to copy Niagara by having a mural of EV legends...except the Strummer mural at Niagara is because Strummer used to drink there, was friends with Jesse, and the space has history with music (A7). Croxley Ales? I bet their average customer can't name a single Ramones song.
1:18 John was kinda antisocial and lived in Chelsea before moving to L.A. so he wouldn't have gone to either but for his image and that of the Ramones and what his/their image represents to have it on the gate of a sports bar that has replaced any vague memories of a Ramones time gone by is the ultimate irony and yes, rather insulting to their legacy. A more appropriate image would be that of Nickelback or Maroon5.
Anonymous 7/6, 1:25pm, By "survived" I meant corporate overexposure didn't hurt "bands of that time that survived" vs. "bands of that time that didn't survive". Indeed, the Ramones survived. I'll concede "End of the Century". I had pretty much stopped listening to them by that time, but Phil Spector did breathe some life into them. You know what would have been interesting, if Brian Eno had produced one of their albums! This was around the time he produced Talking Heads's "Remain in Light".
Cheap wings, good beer, functioning TVs showing baseball (not freakin' soccer). I guess I don't see the issue. I mean, why is this place a pox on the LES, but places like Spitzers with it's overpriced miniburgers and gangs of tattoed beardos fine?
'splain please.
Also, the Ramones happily let their music be used for Bud commercials (etc), why would they care about this? Aside from not getting paid i mean.
There are certainly more offensive places. On the surface, beer, bar food and baseball are a-ok. It's the fratty crowd I see there. The SPitzers crowd is annoying for different reasons. Slightly more hipster asshats and tourists. The entitled frat boys and drunk brunch crowd is the worst. ANd that's what Croxleys mostly seems to attract,
12:42, fair enough. I'm more offended by 20 somethings who pay $15 for 3 "sliders" plus another $6 for fries. Those are the idiots driving up rents and screaming outside my window on Tues at 3:00am. All of them, of course, are really starving artists... phoney baloneys.
Again, the few times I've been to Croxley it seemed a Bayridge/Bayside crowd. Also, $9 for a burger WITH fries. Not cheap, but fair enough.
Like I said, to each his own, but I don't get the Croxley hate.
13 comments:
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The Ramones on the gate of a douchey sports bar... how fitting for what has become of alphabet city/east village!
Chico is cool. The Ramone's were cool before corporate overexposure made them irrelevant. This, on the other hand is not cool. For an aggressively yuppie/jock bar to pay homage to the culture of the community they helped displace, is honestly kind of insulting and ironic.
When I'm feeling generous, I'll say that "Road to Ruin" was their last good album. If I'm feeling less generous, it was "Rocket to Russia".
I don't think it was corporate overexposure that did them in (it didn't hurt other bands of that time, that survived), it was Johnny's unwillingness to change their uniform or musical arrangements.
What do you think John Cummings, blue collar guy from queens, who loved baseball and was a died hard conservative would have preferred Croxley or some overpriced faux-dive bar?
8:38, they played together for 20 some years... not sure what you mean by survived.
As for not changing musical arrangements, what about End of the Century? that was pretty different.
Love the Ramones, but this makes no sense. This establishment has no association with good music or east village legends. Kinda the opposite. Can't help but think they are trying to copy Niagara by having a mural of EV legends...except the Strummer mural at Niagara is because Strummer used to drink there, was friends with Jesse, and the space has history with music (A7). Croxley Ales? I bet their average customer can't name a single Ramones song.
1:18 John was kinda antisocial and lived in Chelsea before moving to L.A. so he wouldn't have gone to either but for his image and that of the Ramones and what his/their image represents to have it on the gate of a sports bar that has replaced any vague memories of a Ramones time gone by is the ultimate irony and yes, rather insulting to their legacy. A more appropriate image would be that of Nickelback or Maroon5.
Anonymous 7/6, 1:25pm,
By "survived" I meant corporate overexposure didn't hurt "bands of that time that survived" vs. "bands of that time that didn't survive". Indeed, the Ramones survived.
I'll concede "End of the Century". I had pretty much stopped listening to them by that time, but Phil Spector did breathe some life into them. You know what would have been interesting, if Brian Eno had produced one of their albums! This was around the time he produced Talking Heads's "Remain in Light".
Cheap wings, good beer, functioning TVs showing baseball (not freakin' soccer). I guess I don't see the issue. I mean, why is this place a pox on the LES, but places like Spitzers with it's overpriced miniburgers and gangs of tattoed beardos fine?
'splain please.
Also, the Ramones happily let their music be used for Bud commercials (etc), why would they care about this? Aside from not getting paid i mean.
To anon 9:19
There are certainly more offensive places. On the surface, beer, bar food and baseball are a-ok. It's the fratty crowd I see there. The SPitzers crowd is annoying for different reasons. Slightly more hipster asshats and tourists. The entitled frat boys and drunk brunch crowd is the worst. ANd that's what Croxleys mostly seems to attract,
12:42, fair enough. I'm more offended by 20 somethings who pay $15 for 3 "sliders" plus another $6 for fries. Those are the idiots driving up rents and screaming outside my window on Tues at 3:00am. All of them, of course, are really starving artists... phoney baloneys.
Again, the few times I've been to Croxley it seemed a Bayridge/Bayside crowd. Also, $9 for a burger WITH fries. Not cheap, but fair enough.
Like I said, to each his own, but I don't get the Croxley hate.
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