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The 9th Precinct Community Council meets on the third Tuesday of every month at 7 p.m.
We heard about one topic that residents will address during tonight's meeting. According to the East Fifth Street Block Association, there have been increasing complaints from residents on Second Avenue and on the southeast side of East Sixth Street and the northeast side of East Fifth Street who "are suffering from noisy, late outdoor parties."
Specifically:
"There was one in the yard of 237 E. 5th St. on Saturday and neighbors from various abutting buildings could be seen hanging out of their window entreating the revelers to quiet down. Police were called and did not show up ... the whole thing finally was shut down when someone hosed the party down."
The meeting, which starts at 7 p.m., is at the 9th Precinct, 321 E. Fifth St. between First Avenue and Second Avenue.
16 comments:
"someone hosed the party down.[sic]"? In the old days, no one would dream of hosing down a party! This just shows you how much the East Village has declined.
Whoever hosed that party down is a modern day folk hero far as I'm concerned. Too many pussies in this city, not nearly enough action.
:-) at least they did not pee on them. :-)
re: hosing - Yes, make them think it is raining, raining on their parade.
Residents from Ave A will also attend concerning loud, late night party noise from 205 Ave A, the Icon Reality property.
All hail the hoser downer; thank you thank you thank you! We need to do more of this. I can never believe how obnoxious people can be with those late-night outdoor parties. I tried talking with tenants who host these, but never got far.
You must be kidding. The entire neighborhood is a loud party at night and for this you have to blame the Community Board who consistently votes to let in new bars, new clubs and new smell-up-the-neighborhood restaurants that stay open late and serve more alcohol. CB3 doesn't seem to get it. Stop giving our liquor licenses in the blocks along Second Avenue from 2nd Street to 10th Street. It only causes disruption and the streets are littered in the mornings with all types of trash, food containers, cigarette butts and pieces of clothing...just how do you not know you lost your shoe? You have to be pretty drunk....and be assured....are. CB3 is to blame, not the people who take advantage of their inactivity and apathy towards the real residents of the neighborhood. CB3 members..stay up past 9PM an take a walk in the area....and then you will know what is really going on. Right now you are in the dark.
I always get a kick out of comments from newbies that say how the EV has always been a rowdy loud place with outdoor parties, etc... Let's not forget the elder anarchists who chant that same song how nobody slept back then because we all loved to party and nobody ever complained. You are both wrong. If you did shit to piss off your neighbor 20 or 30 years ago you got shut down by your neighbors. We didn't bother to call the police, we knew they would bother coming. If you got drunk and stumbled down the street yelling at 3 am you got robbed, what could be an easier target. People wen to clubs in remote places not dense residential neighborhoods. Bars were mostly dive place, blue collar during the day into early evening, then artists, musicians, writers and people that appreciated them went in the evenings. It wasn't a perfect place, a lot of crime, break ins but you always could sleep at night.
I think I may go to this tonight. I've never been to one and I will probably hear punches being thrown from my place anyway.
I'm glad CB3 continues to allow new and interesting bars and restaurants to open in the East Village. The energy and choice are why I live here.
Anon. 9:53, in the good/bad old days of the EV, people didn't party in their backyards. In those days backyards were more often than not filled with junk, weeds and an occasional stove carcass, they hadn't been tarted up for drunk morons to play in. People went to clubs, where noise could be contained, and bars, where no one felt the need to stumble out at closing time and howl at the moon.
Anon. 11:34 - CB3 does not have jurisdiction over backyards or rooftops, that is strictly on the landlords, most of whom have clearly shown they don't give a Pizza Rat's ass about how much the misery the revelry their spoiled brat tenants indulge in causes.
I am frequently bedeviled by backyard parties thrown at 524 East 11th Street and 519 East 10th Street, whose yards abut; sometimes, when I am particularly blessed, they coincide. The 10th Street fests are all about beer pong, and get progressivly louder the later it gets; the 11th Street about setting up amplified music and shrieking, and they're loud from the get-go. They never start before 1 AM. I am not close enough to have any kind of impact, so hosing won't work, but there are times I have seriously wished I had the ability to wish them all into a cornfield, a la Stephen King.
Folks who are dealing with this should attend the meeting tonight. If you are concerned about noise etc from a bar on your block you should attend as well. The CB has no real mechanism to stop a place when it opens but the cops do. Calling 311 is good to have a record, but often the noise and party are over by the time the cops arrive. However if a place gets on their radar by enough complaints then they might do something. Bar owners attend just so you know to smooze with the police as well as some of the good ones to hear from residents. So it can help to attend and complain. Generally if enough people show up and complain and show up a few times something happens. Wish the hose or some other old school stuff worked but could likely get the person doing it arrested as opposed to the assholes causing the problem so . . .
Anon 12:04 PM: You seem to have forgotten about the drug dealers, who were allowed to loiter and sell for years on First Avenue and I'm sure other locations, and frequently got into arguments...
I actually used to pour water down on people partying in the backyard late at night; then someone told me, "Drunks love that!" so I stopped.
Fermented urine works wonders. Keep several large bottles handy -- the older they get, the stronger they get....
I concur with Gojira. In the "old days" (talkin' at least 20 years ago), people weren't yelling and "woo-"ing; the bars were less plentiful, and most were restricted to the Avenues, where traffic was noisier anyway. There was the E. Village bar-hopping circuit, but the clubs were mostly in (then-) non-residential west-side and midtown. The EV had used to be more of a community; people who went there to drink respected that it was a neighborhood. What you see and hear now started around '97, when Ludlow Street (between Houston and Delancey) went from darkened drug market to neon-lighted collegiate drunk scene.
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