Monday, March 14, 2011

[Updated] Resident starting a petition to have the 'Hot Chicks Room' sign removed at the Upright Citizens Brigade

Last month, we discussed the new signage at the new home of the Upright Citizens Brigade on Avenue A at Third Street ...


The sign is a nod to a UCB skit. (Watch it here.) In any event, early word from tonight's CB3/SLA meeting is that a resident will be circulating a petition to ask UCB to change the sign for the sake of the children.

We don't have all the details just yet... (In fact, we're not even at the meeting!) However, a tipster there sent along an e-mail....

Jill at Blah Blog Blah attended the meeting, and said that Two Booths owner Phil Hartman offered to cover the cost of a new sign for the UCB.

Previously on EV Grieve:
About the Hot Chicks Room

47 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hot Chicks Room does sound like a Pink Pussy Kat type of place.

Big Brother said...

For the children? Oh fuck off. Are their parenting skills so lacking they can be thrawrted by a goofy sign?

Jill said...

Hartman said that he offered to pay for a new sign. If this place turns out to be bad news, he will be two for two in the neighborhood for selling to bad operators. His reputation is kind of on the line for this.

Morgan Tsvangirai said...

I didn't get to hear her reasoning but she did seem really upset about it (was it really because of the children?). It does seem like the term 'chicks' is really offensive to the older generation though.

Anonymous said...

What's the rep on UCB anyways? Will this be an interesting performance space, or another E. Village nightlife-revenue-stream?

Anonymous said...

The only person who brought up the issue of kids in relation to "hot chicks room" sign was Phil Hartman. He replied to issue by mentioning kids and his daughter.

Jill said...

Whatever makes you think "chicks" is offensive only to the "older generation?" If you would like, I can find you plenty of young women who are offended by being referred to as a sex object, which is what "hot chicks" implies.

And second, the main point is not that it is offensive language, but that it sounds like the name of a bar designed particularly to attract the frat boy/binge drinker set.

Anonymous said...

UCB Theater is a great theater, there's one in Chelsea that is run very professionally and they are very rigid about keeping crowds in order and quiet.

I think a lot of people are making judgments about something they know nothing about. Sad.

RyanAvenueA said...

No, Phil Hartman was not the only person who brought it up. Even Stetzer brought it up in her rant about 34A, which was ridiculous since it's a totally different venue. If you find it offensive, it's fine to contact the owner. I'm pretty sure we could make anything on A offensive if we tried. This neighborhood is making San Francisco look tough.

Anonymous said...

Are these people unfamiliar with the legendary UCB skit to which The Hot Chicks Room refers? The war on fun continues, nobody will be happy until every neighborhood in NY is the UES, or at least an urban version of Scarsdale or Larchmont. Boo.

Tom said...

thinks they should change the name to the "Steamy Vagina Room" just for spite. Or better yet, "Get A Life".

Anonymous said...

Wait.. people really find "chicks" offensive? As a chick, I don't find it offensive at all. Come on!

Mediainski said...

I don't think the name is offensive. It's just not particularly clever or funny. Here's an idea: UCB should have a contest and allow East Village residents to submit ideas for funny names for the place, then choose a winner and go with that name. Until people start protesting that name. Then they could have another contest and allow East Village residents to submit ideas for funny names for the place, then choose a winner and go with that name. Until people start protesting that name... Anyway, all this to say I think the place should be called We Had To Change Our Name, and my cat thinks it should be called Catnip.

Anonymous said...

The so-called "legendary" skit "Hot Chicks Room" is only legendary to UCB fans. Absolutely no one else has ever even heard of it -- please trust me on this.

Also, said sketch was linked here the last time we had this kerfuffle, and it is powerfully unfunny. I didn't even chuckle once, and I am otherwise a big fan of Amy Poehler.

I don't give a crap about "What about the CHILDREN?!" types, but the sign is tacky and baffling. Case closed.

Anonymous said...

This really sums up the kind of dialog going on at the Community Board these days. Ignorant, tone deaf, and unhappy people sparking fake "outrage" against trifles.

This silly sign is what inspires you? This is the activism you're passionate about?

There is something inherently rotten about a system that allows unelected board members to vote on measures pushed forward by the sorts of people who have enough time on their hands to pass around frivolous petitions and attend tedious meetings. These people do not speak for the community at large.

I attended that meeting on Monday night and the obvious biases of the chair and of the district manager were disgusting to behold. Supporting SLA license signatures were rejected for being more than 2 blocks from the address, while poorly informed activists were allowed to recite prepared canned speeches in opposition though though they lived a dozen blocks afield, and often long after the alloted time had ended.

The Community Board liquor license approval process is not a venue for blanket opposition to liquor licenses, State code provides for consideration of each application on its own merits. Nor is the Community Board an appropriate venue for venting humorless misinterpretations of silly signs.

THIS SIGN IS HARMLESS AND THIS PHONY OUTRAGE IS EMBARRASSING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

Anonymous said...

"hot chicks room" is not the name of the space. it's just a joke. the place is called "Upright Citizens Brigade Theater - East"

first of all... aren't you ashamed to be adamantly against something you've done no research on, and in fact that you're even confused about its name?

secondly, learn to laugh! we are a community of forward thinking urban intellectuals, not humorless buffoons.

lastly, if you want to be active and involved, get involved in helping Japan or Haiti or Christchurch. They need it!

As a neighborhood resident, I'm embarrassed at my neighbors here.

Anonymous said...

@Mediainski
How about "Hot Chicks with Dicks Room"?

No doubt that this place will be a bucket of blood frattie, touristy club. However, perhaps we can deter the frat boys a bit by slightly changing the name.

Anonymous said...

I can assure you there are far more UCB fans living in the East Village than there are Community Board meetings activists.

Anonymous said...

The name is satirical but that doesn't mean that it's not an advertisement for jackasses. The name doesn't offend me at all. The offense is more in the advertising.

Marty Wombacher said...

They should cash in on the viral internet thingy and call it, "The Hipster Trap." (Having said that, I've been to several UCB shows in Chelsea and had a good time at all of them.)

Anonymous said...

it's certainly been an effective advertisement to the sort of jackasses who are posting here and have enough idle time to be offended by silliness.

Anonymous said...

let's be honest. nobody here is offended by this sign. it's just a proxy for disliking the idea of a new place opening in the neighborhood.

Anonymous said...

Why do I feel like the eight billion pro-UCB comments (on three different posts now) are coming from the same hyper-defensive person? People are allowed to not like the sign, guy. And not everyone who dislikes it is on the community board or signed some petition (frankly I hate petitions), we're just making comments on a blog. Take a valium.

Anonymous said...

Looks like someone in the "no to everything" crowd is shocked to find that the other side can be vocal too!

maybe we'll start attending your cb meetings en masse, just like you whiners do!

Anonymous said...

1:19... then what accounts for the 8 billion reactionary posts opposed to anything and everything?

Anonymous said...

2:02, I see you're listening just as well as you did the last time this issue came up. I just said: Not everyone who dislikes the sign is on the damn community board. Speaking only for myself, I simply dislike fugly, dumb signage that is meaningless to 99% of people in my neighborhood, and have some time to kill today. OK? It's really that simple. You're borderline hysterical.

2:10 ... are you new? Bitching is what people do on the Internet.

cheese said...

@anon 1:19

Interesting that you think only ONE person could disagree with you. Perhaps while "I/we" take valiums, you should get a reality check. Or maybe talk to someone about those "feelings."

That is all.

Anonymous said...

No, 2:34, it's just that you all seem to sound exactly the same, all write in the same shrill tone. For comedians/comedy fans you're a pretty humorless bunch.

Anyway, whatever, have your stupid sign. I live across from Superdive and long ago learned to accept the EV's sad decline into Doofusville.

Anonymous said...

The problem is a failure to differentiate between "doofusville" aka Double Down Saloon, Nice Guy Eddies, Billy Hurricane's, and so on... and actually culturally relevant additions to the 'hood, such as the new space Phil Hartman was trying to open, or the UCB Theater -- both of which are smart concepts.

You guys don't listen, don't research, and don't know what you're opposing. You just oppose. Meanwhile, we have a sea of for rent signs and a million insanely priced upscale places. The neighborhood is getting sick of you anti-growth people. You have failed us.

Anonymous said...

No 3:12, YOU don't listen. We had the *exact* same fight last time. No one opposes the UCB. No one. Yes, the "Hot Chicks Room" sketch is crickets-inducing levels of not funny, but I think the UCB are a fine addition to the EV. Did you hear me? THE UCB IS A FINE ADDITION TO THE EAST VILLAGE. It's just the sign people here have opposed to. Just the sign. Just the effing sign!!! Christ, now *I* need a valium.

I have no idea why you refuse to accept that the opposition is limited to the UCB signage (and just the "Hot Chicks" signage at that), and instead want to constantly blow up and accuse us of being a bunch of fuddy-duddys and philistines and why don't we go save Haiti instead blah blah.

I also have no idea why I got sucked into this ridiculous non-argument with you again so I bid you good day sir, I said good day! etc. etc. yadda ad nauseum

Anonymous said...

hey dumbasses, hold ona sec I'm gonna offend ya

this petition bullshit is full on retarded. yr a buncha ninnies.

you kids get offa my lawn!

Anonymous said...

the people opposed to this sign have claimed repeatedly that the ucb will bring in a "fratty" crowd.

and you tell me that's not code for "we don't like this new thing" and will lead to more "dufusville"?

you're full of shit!

Anonymous said...

3:28, I have no idea who you think I am or what fight we supposedly had last time, but I've written several of the posts here making fun of you guys' embarrassing fight about a mfing sign... and I have never posted about this subject before today.

You're wrong, period

glamma said...

they're all wearing cargo shorts

Anonymous said...

Huh. I am a woman and I consider myself a pretty serious feminist and I don't get what the problem is here. I don't refer to myself or other women as chicks but I don't consider it any more offensive than grown women who refer to themselves as "girls," and there seem to be a LOT of those. Seriously, a lot. I don't personally know any men who are that dumb and fratty that they do that and I don't have any woman friends who do that, but I have worked with a lot of women who seem to think nothing of it. I always notice it, though, and I think it's a pretty gross habit.

The second issue people seem to have with the sign is the idea that it's meant to attract crappy fratty guys, and I don't get why that's a problem. If they want to gather in one place and stay out of my favorite bars and restaurants, I think that's pretty great, actually.

The third issue people seem to have with it is the idea that any reference to any woman's appearance is apparently sexist. This makes no sense to me. Some people are hot and some aren't. Men too. Some of them are extremely not hot. If there is a feminist school of thought saying that everyone is equally attractive and that as a society we ought to eradicate any and all references to anyone's attractiveness, no matter how tongue-in-cheek or fake-ironic, I'm not aware of that, and I think it sounds pretty silly.

Anonymous said...

I'm wrong, I'm full of shit, well, fine, but you're a bunch of borderline illiterates.

I honestly don't even care what happens anymore. I am bolting to Gramercy the second my landlord buys me out. Or 11th Avenue and 20-nothing. Jesus, even UES dowagers are more appealing than you freaking nu-comedy howler monkeys.

goodnight

Anonymous said...

I can't sleep at night knowing that that sign is out there, on the streets.

Anonymous said...

how can you guys just sit there and let this happen???

THERE IS A SIGN THAT SAYS HOT CHICKS ROOM ON OUR STREET!

Marty Wombacher said...

This comment thread is hot.

Anonymous said...

how we will ever get by without dear old 5:15 caring about what happens to us anymore??

he protects us from SIGNS. don't leeeave us! we're barefoot and illiterate and need your benevolent guidance...

Anonymous said...

To people who don't get why it's "offensive".
It's not "offensive", it's just annoying and obtrusive.
Chicks isn't offensive, but that is a frat-house obnoxious sign if I've ever seen one...and it also doesn't make sense unless you know what it's referring to, which most people don't.

I like seeing a theatre here but was surprised by that sign. Hopefully it's just temporary.

Jill said...

This discussion has gotten really weird. As far as I can tell there is nobody who is opposed to UCB coming into the Pioneer Theater, despite their cargo shorts.

I see that it started at 8:55am with this allegation of being opposed to something nobody knows anything about, yet I can find no basis for that reasoning, nobody opposed to UCB, other than some people being not appreciating the Hot Chicks sign.

I for one don't give a shit about that sign, was just trying to explain why others might find it sexist.

I do, however, feel bad for the Ugly Chicks who I guess won't be allowed inside. As a hot chick myself, I am glad to be part of the club, as long as they continue to keep the ugly girls out. If they let in the ugly girls then we have a serious problem with false advertising and I will be calling 311 to complain.

Anonymous said...

I like chicks, pussy, the sign, the UCB, midgets, retards, and zeppelins.

EV Grieve said...

@anon 7:36 pm

I find your use of "zeppelins" offensive!

Anonymous said...

I hope the old folks brigade is enjoying this little victory, because this is does not look good from the outside (see: pix11 news coverage).

this is the high water mark for the current wave of neighborhood ignoramus activism - I hope!

Anonymous said...

I can speak on behalf of the community and we are willing to settle with changing the sign to "slut jam"

Anonymous said...

that is a frat-house obnoxious sign if I've ever seen one

WTF are you talking about? From the photo, the lettering looks to be all of 6 inches high. I doubt 95% of the people walking past would even notice the sign. Obnoxious? Get the stick out of your ass.


and it also doesn't make sense unless you know what it's referring to, which most people don't.

Oh, well god forbid someone be confused by something. I now foresee countless pedestrians catching sight of that sign and starting to spin aimlessly until they collapse.

I have no idea what the sign refers to, besides the vague comments above. Either I'll find out, or I won't. Either way I'll probably survive. But if you think every storefront should include a helpful sign explaining its business ("THIS IS A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN PAY MONEY IN EXCHANGE FOR ALCOHOL"), feel free to recommend it at your next community meeting.