Wednesday, May 19, 2021

Neighbors address the rooftop parties at this 6th Street building

Some residents on Sixth Street have launched a flyer campaign to help address the rooftop ragers at 330 E. Sixth St. between First Avenue and Second Avenue.
Per the flyers spotted on the block...
"We are a group of tenants living on 6th Street determined to address the issue of noise disturbances occurring every weekend — crowded parties on the rooftop with blasting music and guests yelling until late night."
Apparently, these have become a Friday-through-Sunday ritual these past few months.

There's an email address to receive updates on the group's action... as well as a prompt to file a complaint with 311. 

The landlord is Centennial Properties, which is the new name of convicted felon Steve Croman's 9300 Realty. 

According to Streeteasy, units range in price from $4,100 to $7,600 for three to four bedrooms. Amenities for a few units include balconies with at least one having a private roof deck.

49 comments:

bill said...

There are also obnoxiously loud roof top parties at 536 E. 6th Street.
Complain to management at (347) 281-6838.

Anonymous said...

The more neighbors who complain to 311 and then follow these instructions on the Community Board 3 Website (https://www1.nyc.gov/html/mancb3/html/sla/nightlife.shtml) the faster something will be done to stop this. Be sure to record the complaint number that the 311 operator gives you. Keep a record of each and every call you make to 311 to report this.

NAFB said...

When bars open back up fully with no curfew this will end

Anonymous said...

When the bars open back up fully this will stop

dwg said...

Same thing has been happening on multiple roof tops from 12th to 13th around Avenue A. Current count- 7 roof tops. Party noise Friday through Sunday with virtually no responsibility taken by landlords and management companies. We're hearing from them that city rules and regulation prevent them from effectively dealing with partying tenants. We say if you're going to open your rooftops to tenant use you should be fully prepared to monitor and control their behavior. If not: DON'T OPEN YOUR ROOF TO TENANTS- problem solved.

At the 9th Precinct Community zoom meeting last night police acknowledged roof parties exploding everywhere. They said there's only so much they can do if they can't gain entry to a building and often tenants see them pull up and shut down the noise/music until they leave.

It's a mess on top of the blasting noise from Open Restaurants. Thank you deBlasio.

noble neolani said...

This summer is going to be insane as some people will feel entitled (due to the many months of lockdown and PAUSE) to party as if doomsday was weeks away. We all were affected by this still ongoing pandemic, lost our social lives along with so many things which make life enjoyable. Still this gives no one the right to torture their neighbors like this. The good people of 6th Street are right and no they should not all pack up and move to the suburbs or Kansas as some snot nosed asshole will certainly suggest.

Anonymous said...

Although not every weekend there has been multiple parties on the rooftop/upper floors of 310 E 9th st. Have even seen multiple bouncers working the front of the building

Anonymous said...

317/319, 325 and 329 East 10th Street regularly have both roof and garden ragers, sometimes with both levels going simultaneously. Has to be heard to be believed. Had no idea games of beer pong were so interesting.

Anonymous said...

EV Grieve commenters: I wanna go back to the OLD East Village when things were gritty and cool and punk rock.

Also EV Grieve commenter: SToP LatE NIghT RoOFtOP PaRTies itS NOiSy

Anonymous said...

A normal party for a few hours a few times is one thing. These frat douchey types that yell up and down the stairwells and "wooo!" and chant and shit with blasting speakers all night ritually is out of control especially in this hood.

Anonymous said...

64 Second Avenue between 3/4 also constantly holds parties on the roof from noon to 3:30am with extremely bright lights and loud music of course. At least they stopped with the flaming tall heaters after the fire department visited. Last night, Tuesday night, there was a party midblock on a bruh building roof on 3rd Street between street between First and Second until at least 2:00am. This with the hell that is living with the crowds and noise on Second Avenue between Third and Fourth Streets with about 12 bar/restaurant Open Restaurants (and a brewery opening at 64 Second Avenue soon)promises for an excruciating summer. Community Board Three and the New York State Liquor Authority should be investigated thoroughly for turning the block into the Disneyland of bars in a liquor license over-saturated area.

Anonymous said...

There is a result when you empty out the residents, gut renovate and replace with transient addicts.

Anonymous said...

I lived in the OLD neighborhood at the time you're describing as "gritty" and "cool" and "punk rock." Back when you could buy heroin out of a bucket lowered down from a window, and if your bike was stolen, you'd go fight to get it back from the "Thieves R Us" market that operated openly on the street across from the old Met Foods.

And yes, we had parties too!

But we also understood that we lived in a neighborhood and we were part of a community, with people who had to be on the job at 7 AM (it was a working class neighborhood then, not NYU post-college). And we knew that school kids needed their sleep. Sure we thought we were cool, but we didn't believe the universe revolved around us.

The frat bros screaming "f--k you!" and turning up the music to spite the neighbors were way too scared to come down here back then. They weren't cool then, and they still aren't. And top 40 turned up to 11? Definitely not punk.

The neighborhood's changed, I get it, no going back. But the bros need to understand that the other buildings they see around them contain other lives, and aren't simply a painted backdrop for their personal show.

Anonymous said...

I live across from the building on 12th Street and A that has the rooftop parties. I have to pull down my shades so I don't have a bunch of douche bros looking into my windows. Unfortunately I can't block out the music. Between them and the El Camion and Au Zaatar restaurants blasting the music especially on weeks it is too much to take. The neighborhood was never this loud. It is out of control but we aren't getting any help from Carlina Rivera or the police or the mayor.

Anonymous said...

@10:31 - typical ignorant suburban transplant comment.

Anonymous said...

Same thing goes on 10th Street between First and Second Avenue.

Anonymous said...

People who live in the city should expect some level of noise, but people who want to be as loud as they want whenever they want should move to the woods.

Anonymous said...

Some of these rooftop parties can actually be illegal clubs, particularly when they have bouncers out front as mentioned by Anon 9:51 AM. Call 311 and the police on them. Police prefer you call 311 but calling the front desk or community officer at the precinct can also help.

Anonymous said...

I am going to email the mayor and Carlina Rivera’s office about this today. It seems hopeless but it is a step. We have to let them know how bad it is and how people are reaching their breaking points. This way they can’t act like they don’t know about it.

Anonymous said...

Similar issue- why are bars allowed to play loud music with their doors open, or with outside speakers? Although there are many aspects of outdoor dining/drinking that are nice, it would be reasonable to prohibit music blasting outdoors. Why isn't this commonsense rule in place? It would solve many of the problems with this program.I suspect many of our pols are too beholden to the Hospitality in Industry to consider this sensible curb.

Anonymous said...

All the landlords like icon, corman add rooftop decks to the top floor units when they do a gut for exactly this purpose. Decks equal bucks

hywel dda said...

I have reported 310 East 9 St more than once over the past few YEARS! The music is LIVE with amplifiers. To me this is not a party but falls under Cabaret Licensing. The rooftop is about 20x30' & I have seen what appears to be 20-30 people plus instruments and amplifiers, furniture and trees on this roof at one time. I have seen people sitting on the bulkhead roof. Floor plans on Real Estate websites indicate that there is only the one small staircase down from the roof. There is what appears to be a flimsy railing along the roof frontage. A healthy shove would probably take it down. And yes, the last time (a few weeks ago) they actually had a doorman/bouncer on the stoop feeding people up to the roof. Add the traffic congestion from everyone's Uber trying to find the address & discharge their fares, beyond the horrendously loud music,it is a complete sh*tshow. I have reported them for noise and also for unsafe and hazardous occupancy and exit conditions. Both 311 and 911.
This building should be required to get a Cabaret License, occupancy limits and feasible Exits in case of emergency like other live music venues.

Where is the city in this? And C. Rivera?

Anonymous said...

For those who are opposed to the proposal to make outdoor dining permanent please please take the time to sign the petition. The response so far is pitiful based on the number of people who appear to be opposed to it.https://www.change.org/shut-the-dining-sheds

Anonymous said...

To the people saying "When bars open back up fully with no curfew this will end": No, they won't. The people throwing these parties are doing so for money, and they're making a killing off the entrance fee. The clientele are often underage. Bars don't mean shit to them. Stop the parties at this location, and they will go looking for another location and start again.

Giovanni said...

Welcome to Roofhampton.

Anonymous said...

There are always people leaning on the railings on the building on the corner of 12th and A and 505 East 12th Street, right next door. They are owned by the same landlord. As much as I can't stand these people, I also don't want to see one of them plunge over the edge if that railing gives way or they lean too far over.

daHo said...

There are THREE buildings along 1st Ave between 3/4 that host loud backyard parties most weekends. NYPD are worthless trying to get this fixed. Even when there were covid occupancy restrictions for private parties, nothing happened. Frat parties disturb most of the eastern buildings along 3rd and 4th streets.

Anonymous said...

Thank You to Grieve for allowing this important discussion

This has been a problem for years now not just during covid and many solutions discussed quite a bit by neighbors who have had to endure them, best idea i heard is if the city fined the landlords like 3x the rent per incident...

or we should start a action committee and start suing landlords that allow their buildings to be turned into nightclubs

it's terrorizing when the thumpity thump starts as your trying to put the kids to bed or just have a restful evening after a bitch of a week and please don't say then move been here for most of my life and love our neighborhood and willing to work to return it to it's active yet considerate glory

Most of this boom-boom is done by transients who will be gone soon enough but replaced by the next wave of selfish transients because landlords advertise and allow this behavior in order to rent these places for more money throw some astro-turf down on the roof and say perfect for entertaining in the ad's or stack 5 or 6 kids in a flat paying 7K a month! which is translated as we can do whatever we want

Enough is enough





Anonymous said...

There is nothing "cool gritty or punk rock" about a bunch of frat assholes blasting shit music until 4am. Puking in the streets, harassing girls on the streets when they leave the parties, and generally saying fuck you to elderly neighbors that complain their apt is shaking. If you think three is any resemblance between that time in NY and these people then you were not here back then I would guess. These kids would have been TERRIFIED of the old NYC and would not have walked past st marks and 2nd ave. Probaby would not have walked even that far east actually.

dwg said...

I agree- thank you EV for this opportunity for interaction and comment.

Anonymous said...

"... at 4:39 PM."

Right on point. Do you actually think any of these Uber frat clowns would have survived five minutes of NYC during the Heroine or Crack days, where the junkies would be falling nearly to the sidewalk-hanging on to the phone cords in front of Gem Spa, or even dare to walk through Thompkins Park in the daytime?

Sadly, this is what's called in the vernacular - progress.
The only way to end it is by financially hitting these landlords in their wallet as many times as it takes. Making it costly to them will change their attitude in a hurry.

yetanothercommenter said...

@4:27 PM

Agree the only way this stops is fining the property owners and a commitment from NYPD and DEP, the enforcers of the noise code, to make a few examples early on. If a property owner is getting 8k a month with the unspoken arrangement that the space can be used as a club for profit, or even a not-for-profit rich kids frat house, they need to know their checkbook is at risk.

Make it like underage drinking. First time it's expensive, second time it's really expensive, third time it's the gross for the term of the lease.

Anonymous said...

I highly doubt that, this has been going on for at that spot for years now, it just got a lot louder and more crowded since Covid. But don’t count on it stopping when a rooftop party in the summer beat out indoor bars any day.

Anonymous said...

Just checked the rental history for 310 E 9th St - holy cow, there was a 3-bed listed for $17,500!

Anonymous said...

Croman building

Anonymous said...

Same thing happening at 228 Thompson Street - a bunch of douchebag guys renting a townhouse for a $$$ and they have multiple roof and backyard large parties every weekend. The landlord/management company doesn’t care. It’s been hell!

Anonymous said...

Similarly terrorized were neighbors of the new 190 E 7th St building complex (betw. Ave B &C). It has rooftop terraces on both the Seventh and Sixth Street sides, which created nuisance from loud music since it was build in 2000.

Culprit is the notorious developer/owner Paul Stallings. Stallings managed to get air rights transferred to build higher. While he maximizes profits, Stallings lets his inflated rents paying type of tenants violate the city's noise code and makes an entire neighborhood suffer. "Party spaces" command higher returns on investment. Nurses who work shifts and families with young children are particularly exposed to pain. Yet noise is shown to be detrimental to anyone's health. It makes sick.

Stallings was also behind the "Hotel on Rivington", which attracted a record number of noise complaints, and finally passed it on Kushner Companies, according to articles in the NY Post & NY Times.

At times its boisterous parties, at other times it's just one individual by himself on his high perch who feels seemingly privileged to blast neighbors with his soundtrack. It's cumbersome for neighbors to go after such types, as they might just get replaced within a year or two (after they OD, get imprisoned on unrelated charges, or whatever). It's therefore important to go to the source.

What the community needs is (1) proper enforcement of the existing noise code, (2) change in code & protocols to eliminate obstacles for swift enforcement, (3) identify those responsible to sue them for damages. What are our elected officials doing about this? How much more have neighbors to endure? How much more complaints and actions have to be taken to defend peace and health? How can we protect those who are particularly vulnerable and who are in despair for not knowing what to do?

Thanks to EV Grieve to allow the community to recognize that this is not merely a problem of just one oblivious individual or building but indeed a pattern affecting quite a number of neighbors.

Anonymous said...

@7:46. Exactly. We would hear a car backfire on Ave C and all hit the ground thinking it was gunshots. These spoiled entitled douchebags have no "community" going on. Back then we had each others backs and navigated a crazy area like tent city and riots on the park but we were like family. Comparing these horrible spoiled shit music roof parties to that time is one of the dumbest comments I have seen on this site. This is a playground for the rich going on not illegal squats and punk shows in abandoned buildings. And yeah I do miss those days. These kids or "milliies" would have run away screaming.

Anonymous said...

Hi! I live in a building on E 12th, right by Ave A & I’ve been trying to figure out WHICH building/address is having the parties. I thought the music & bro’s *wooh wooh* yelling was coming from E 13th St (either 336, 340, or 342 E 13th). Which address(s) are you pinpointing it to? Thanks!

Anonymous said...

There are also loud parties that take place at 92 East 7th. Two Fridays ago, there was a LINE of frat bros and sorority girls outside of the building. The party seems to take place at the apartment on the top floor.

Anonymous said...

I live in a building owned by Icon on 2nd Ave in the EV and have been experiencing insanely large and loud parties in the building every Thursday/Friday/Saturday since the day I moved in. After applying moderate pressure to our property manager, Icon has hired a security guard to monitor noise, close off the roof access, and shut things down after 10pm. It’s been helpful but not foolproof. TL;DR — Apply pressure. Keep complaining. They’re aware of the issue and have the means to act/implement change.

Beacon, NY said...

I'm so glad I'm able to escape to the hinterland on the weekends fleeing from the noise generated from these 20 something year olds whom some of them might call it their hometown. It's called switching places.

Anonymous said...

Yesssssssss!

Anonymous said...

Gritty Old East Village didn't involved entitled partying without consequences and complete disrespect of neighbors. Also the music didn't suck

Anonymous10009 said...

202 Avenue A, possibly. Rager on the rooftop that shook my walls, no exaggeration.
There is also a patio for the tenants on the first floor up, it can be really loud there as well, if you share the same back space like I do.

Anonymous said...

1000%%%

Anonymous said...

Yes i live across the street and it’s ridiculous. I was able to catch the attention of the tenants there and realized that the roof is accessible by a few apartments, so it’s multiple people throwing the parties. I’ve called 311 a couple times and the police response was “we didn’t see anything”. Thanks for that number

Anonymous said...

While most newcomers to the neighborhood are kind & respectful people with good intentions, a subset acts as if they are entitled to disregard the right of their neighbors for peace & quiet. Key is to enforcement. If owners profit from it, then it is an incentive to ignore the problem or merely pretend to be doing something about it.

Add to your list the East Sixth Street side of the 190 E 7th St complex. It least one of the top floor units with rooftop terrace are said to be corporate apartment with transient residents moving on after a few years, resetting troubles again and again.

Uncle J said...

Realize that these upper class degenerates are exactly the people de Blasio is speaking to when he talks about the recovery for all us over and over again