[9th and A at 6:30 a.m. via Vinny & O]
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Preliminary recap:
• Two men are dead after an early morning shootout on Avenue A at Seventh Street.
• Police say an argument that started inside the Hayaty Hookah Bar, 103 Avenue A, spilled out into the street.
• The two men, each armed, shot at each other. One of the men, identified as Richard Reid, 41, died. Both men were reportedly gang members.
• Two uniformed officers from the 9th Precinct, on patrol nearby, responded to the scene. Police say the officers shot the second man after he refused to get on the ground. The man, identified as Earl Facey (also ID'd as Lacey), 37, reportedly was on parole for a prior shooting for which he had served eight years in prison.
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Original post with updates...
There's a massive police response on Avenue A and Seventh Street [as of 5 a.m.] following an early-morning shooting involving two men on the southwest corner.
According to ABC 7, the gunfire was a result of a fight that started inside the Hayaty Hookah Bar, 103 Avenue A between Sixth Street and Seventh Street.
Per ABC:
Both men were taken to Bellevue Hospital with injuries described as life-threatening.
No officers were injured in the gunfire, although two were being taken to the hospital to be treated for ringing in the ears.
A weapon has been recovered at the scene.
Avenue A is currently closed to through traffic between Fifth Street and 10th Street (as of 5 a.m.)...
M14A-SBS buses are detoured in both directions because of Police activity on Avenue A between St. Marks Pl and 7 St. Details at https://t.co/4PI10QaRnr— NYCT Buses (@NYCTBus) January 9, 2020
We'll continue to update this story as more information becomes available.
Updated 7:19 a.m.
From the scene... both men, including one shot by police, are dead...
Update: Both men shot this morning after a dispute in the East Village are dead, said the NYPD. One was shot by police. @LindsayTuchman pic.twitter.com/OshVfW7zZs— Spectrum News NY1 (@NY1) January 9, 2020
Updated 7:22 a.m.
According to NBC 4, two uniformed officers from the 9th Precinct who were patrolling Tompkins Square Park heard the gunshots around 3:30 a.m. and responded to the scene at the corner of Seventh and A.
That's where they found a man shooting at another man.
The officers engaged them and told the armed man to get on the ground. "It was then the officers fired approximately three times at the male, striking him," NYPD Chief of Department Terence Monahan told reporters.
Updated 7:26 a.m.
The press conference...
UPDATE: @NYPDChiefofDept and other NYPD executives provide an update on this morning’s police involved shooting in Lower Manhattan. The investigation is ongoing, all information is preliminary https://t.co/sWwYY7Reqi— NYPD NEWS (@NYPDnews) January 9, 2020
Police Chief Terence Monahan said that the man police shot was on parole for a prior shooting for which he had served eight years in prison.
Updated 8:45 a.m.
Police released photos of the two weapons the men had in their possession.
This morning’s police-involved shooting is another example of the bravery demonstrated by NYPD officers every day. When two suspects shot at each other, our cops put themselves in harm’s way by running toward the danger.— Commissioner Shea (@NYPDShea) January 9, 2020
Photos of the suspects’ guns, recovered at the scene: ⬇️ pic.twitter.com/f9HKRqppa4
Updated 10 a.m.
Steven shared these photos... taken at 8:50 a.m. and showing the ongoing investigation...
There are bullet casings on Avenue A...
Several businesses along Avenue A aren't able to open, including Starbucks at St. Mark's Place, which won't be open at all today, per a sign on the door...
Updated 1:30 p.m.
The Daily News has more on the two victims, Richard Reid and Earl Facey, gang members who did not know each other.
Sources said Reid, who lived in Brownsville, was a Crip with 14 arrests on his record. He had connections to two previous shooting, sources said. He was a person of interest in a March 31, 2019, non-fatal shooting in Bedford-Stuyvesant and was a witness in another shooting, also not fatal, on Jan. 3, 2017, on the Lower East Side.
Facey, a member of the Insane Gangsta Crips who lived in East Harlem, had an even worse record, sources said.
He had been arrested 21 times and served almost seven years in state prison for gun possession before he was paroled in August 2017. He was also considered a suspect in a Sept. 28, 2008 shooting in East Flatbush and a April 3, 2008, murder in Flatbush, sources said. Facey was also shot once before, in Crown Heights on May 1, 2004.
Updated 4 p.m.
Per the Post: Reid and Facey got into a fight inside the bar after the women they were with bumped into each other.
During the fracas, a bottle or glass of water was thrown, prompting a bouncer to boot all those involved out onto the street where Facey and Reid ultimately opened fire on each other, sources said.
41 comments:
Do they really need copters hovering for such a long time when the incident is already over? FFS...
Thanks for the update. We’re on Avenue A and 12th and we can hear the helicopters.
As usual the tyranny of the NYPD. Obsessed with the ability to impose pain on great amount of people. The shooting ended hours ago, the shooters are in the hospital. You need 2 helicopters to be deployed still? Do you need to close down the whole avenue A in order to investigate a crime scene? tens of thusands of people are riding the M14A bus at this hour. The NYPD needs to be tamed
Thanks Grieve! Woke up, heard the chopper and was wondering out loud. The wife said "EV Grieve".
Broadway and 8th Street here--yes, hearing the chopper(s) load and clear
Wtf is going on in our neighborhood with crime and why on Earth is anyone talking about the tyranny of the NYPD?! I'd hazard a guess that the helicopters are assisting with the investigation as opposed to simply hanging out to annoy the curmudgeons of the neighborhood.
More importantly, what is going on with crime? We have had an increase in shootings, robberies, and stabbings it seems recently. I'd sure love more of a police presence and our politicians to actually do something and work with, instead of against, the police.
Sad when you wake up to hearing what sounds like a gazillion helicopters and are relieved it's just a shooting, not the beginning of WWIII.
I hate them so much. Its my biggest complaint about living in the city.
thanks for the info, EV...7:41 copters still up there
It’s more likely a news helicopter at this point. Nothing against police overall, just the prolonged use of helicopters when they probably aren’t useful in terms of helping with any incident. The communities disturbed by them don’t seem to have rights and be taken into account.
Nice work NYPD!! Watched this happen right outside my window. Never seen violence in all my years living in crown heights , 2nd year here in evill, murder right outside !! Insane
People complaining about the police and helicopters 🙄🙄🙄
I agree with neighbor, the crime in this area is getting out of control. Don’t want to hear from the local curmudgeons that “in the 80s this area...” well the extremely low rent reflected on the safety then. NOW we are paying 2k+ because of taxes, yes, I would like an increase of police presence that actually give a shit.
Agree crime is on the rise and am tired of it. Fortunate that innocent neighbors weren’t injured in assailants crossfire. Grateful NYPD was in park and responded, putting the firefight to an end.
FFS if those are in fact new choppers...can they save a little $$'s and reduce the noise pollution by using drones? Waking up to them gives me anxiety.
I also love how you folks want more police presence when in fact they were present and did their jobs.
I feel like there was a swift police response if there were officers right by in the park. I don't know what else we could have asked for.
Those who are interested in a reality grounded in truth can check our our precint's crime stats: https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs-en-us-009pct.pdf
Crime complaints fell YoY in 2019, although murder, assault, and gla did tick up slightly
copters and the whole place is closed for hours? crazy overtime. On the other hand the traffic calming and pedestrian experiment is working so let's make it permanent.
Helicopters complaints when two men have died. We don't really know who these men were, what the conflict was, if they lived in the neighborhood etc... My guess they knew each other, or this was a hit, or gang related. Stop blaming the police for two men shooting at each other, be happy none of you were there to get caught up in that deadly situation.
The problem isn't the news helicopters, the problem is all of the guns that are on the streets. The fact that both of these guys were carrying guns in a club that serves alcohol is disturbing. Apparently the dispute spilled out of the hookah bar onto the sidewalk and there was a large group arguing very loudly before someone opened fire. There are reports that up too a dozen shots were fired before the cops even arrived, which if true means that more than one person was firing a gun. Both guns recovered were 22 caliber Blackpowder Companion Revolvers, which are easy to conceal and only carry 5 rounds. Obviously this Hookah lounge which makes money selling booze to a rough crowd needs better security, because it’s likely that there were more than two armed customers inside the club last night.
The hookah bar is a source of alot of bad energy on Avenue A.
What should the club do? Have bouncers pat people down?
I can't believe I'm saying this, but for once I completely agree with Noble.
A lot of clubs actually do that, some even have metal detectors, so... Yeah? Sucks for everyone but if it's the kind of place people carry guns...
Many clubs do pat downs for weapons, which means that people who carry guns will go elsewhere, or leave their guns at home. This is the least that a place that attracts a late night clubbing crowd should do. Check out their Yelp reviews and you'll see the kind of clientele they attract and why this is needed ASAP. They need to beef up security before these two guys crew members come back looking for more trouble. Meanwhile the city is banning vaping products, but for some reason we still have hookah bars?
I live on 7th and C. That's why I heard helicopters hovering over in the middle of the night. WTF is happening to our hood? Feels like we are slipping back into the 80s. You know whom we have to thank for that? DeBlassio.
Anon 1:42 PM
Gee thanks for agreeing with me on this rare occasion.
I wonder what the "Nightlife Mayor" will be doing to prevent gang members shootouts in the future?
Answer = Nothing.
The problem is the problem and the problem is that the problem interfered with my sleep.
All else is irrelevant.
Side note - 3 am call to 911 regarding a brutal fight on St.Marks. Police never showed up. True story from the ground floor.
Stop and frisk is not unconstitutional. A lot of crime is going unreported these days because police is so passive. We all remember the water bucket incident past summer.
Wow those rap sheets are impressive! Spooky thing about bullets flying is they can easily hit innocent bystanders, or in this case neighbors. There's no real short term solution to this kind of craziness, though more nastiness around the particular venue should lead to some justified harassment by the city. One of the accepted realities of running a restaurant or cafe in Manhattan is, if they want to, there's always a stack of violations to be written up.
Talk about toxic masculinity. This all started because the women they were with bumped into each now. Now both of these men are dead. For what? So stupid. I am relieved an innocent bystander wasn’t hurt. A lot of people who work night jobs are walking home at this time. Good on the cops for shutting this down before someone else got killed. The late night joints around here need to start scanning for weaponry. There is too much violence going down.
Reading through these 30 posts at 8:30 PM, I am not amazed to see how much misinformation was contained in various posts and how much animus to the police surfaces. I hope people return to this thread and realize that we need to know facts.
I've been to places that did pat-downs but they're bigger spots than Hayaty (though I've never been inside). Usually there are multiple bouncers, with one holding a wand. Maybe it would help, but what's gonna stop the person with the gun from shooting if they are refused entry? What then? I recall several years ago a bouncer getting shot in the head near what was Forbidden City (now Fat Buddha), trying to breakup a fight.
Btw, has the so called Nightlife Mayor ever said or done anything since being appointed?
@8:35pm: I'm sure the nightlife mayor collects her paychecks very regularly. Other than that, she is a cypher.
It's all about being respectful.
When, usually arrogant, people start "throwing their weight around", bad things will happen.
I usually avoid places with bouncers altogether. It implies a hot head clientele. No need for a bouncer at Nancy Whiskey or Fanelli's or Ear Inn.
@8:26. So far everything that’s been reported here has been pretty accurate, as proven by the videos and news accounts. People are expressing their thoughts about a tragedy, which is what this comment section is for. The issue with the helicopters was cleared up, they were mostly news choppers. and yes they are aggravating for people trying to sleep. EvGrieve is the best place available to get information about what’s going on in this neighborhood, which is obviously why you and the rest of us are all here. Thanks to EVGrieve we can all stay better informed.
So in your opinion people paying lower rent aren’t entitled to as much police protection as those paying higher rents? Or that people paying affordable rents are criminals who contribute to danger in a specified neighborhood? You need some self examination.
This club caters to a rough crowd that doesn’t live in this neighborhood. A crime increase of less than 3% does not signify a slip back to the 80s. Do your homework and stop the hyperbole.
It was found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of the state of New York. So who should we believe? You or the court?
Oh lord lol...Yes by me saying that I secretly was saying “people with lower rents deserve little to no police presence and deserve to live like the Wild West and just protect themselves as they see fit”. Thank you for translating!!
Scary AF!
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